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Oh, and just to throw in a wuickie on scientific research....

One can get any justification for any argument from scientific research - its based on the parameters set for research. This inherent bias is understood in the realms of Quantum Physics and Heisenberg's 'Uncertainty Principle'.

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bit more of an interesting thread than some would think - not so different to how ale was drunk before refrigeration - from fermenter to secondary , and served out of the barrel by gravity - carbonation was for the gentry, ale from the barrel for the people.

FWIW, I remember tasting a belgian ale I ...

had my first one of these yesterday - absolutely brilliant beer - I thought it was low on bittering for a pilsener, and perhaps has some wheat malt in it - like to brew one thats for sure.

more importanat is which ones to avoid? Please dont try this at home, but I purchased a brewiser (I think) kit and it was woeful. Have tried all the ones that can be bought at the supermarket -do not under any circumstances try this at home - this experiment was done under controlled circumstances ...

I use this kit with 3463 forbidden fruit yeast - a belgian yeast would be good, even the coopers bottled yeast has some charachter, or for dry, try T-58.

I add 500g steeped crystal (german or english, but avoid the4 Joe White aussie crystal malt), 1.5kg amber malt extract, 300g dried wheat malt ...

saflager s-23 as above is a good answer - gives a slightly fruity taste, so more charachter, and can cope with the more 'natural' temp swings you will get (as opposed to a brew fridge).

james boags light - a step up from cascade.

hell, its a year old thread, but anyway

staple 10

Little Creatures Pale Ale
Coopers sparkling ale
coopers pale ale
Hoegaarden Grand cru'
Hoegaarden Wit
Pilsner Urquell
James Boags
Worthington White shield
Belle Vue
Duvel
Triple Karmeliet

Winter
Aventinus
Duvel

Summer
schofferhoffer hefe
Leffe ...

I'd blame the s23 for the sweetness,34/70 is much drier in style.

Best hop treatment i think is around 15 grams each of cascade and chinook - will be pellets, 1/2 dry hopped, 1./2 boiled for a couple of minutes and allowed to cool. LCPA has no crystal in it, and is light in body and colour relative to the US APA's- last one I did was about 35 ibu, and no crystal ...

Isnt he super traditional? If you want to experience a beer true to style in the 1700's he's the man - I hate anybody's bock, so thats no surprise, done properly bock isa strident beer only a mother could love. The striving towards brew to brew consistancy is what gave us mega brewery all tastes the ...

+Mr magoo, its all about the yeast, you can get a muntons belgian ale kit from HBS, add a morgans dark crystal 1kg malt, a 1.5kg amber malt and add the yeast of your choice from wyeast and ferment at 24 or so.

The kolsch is about the yeast as well, I've actually cheated with a kolsch and just used ...

Have done a partial or 2, and to be honest didnt come up to expectations- the speciality grain version I did of the same beer was far superior.

I dont think I'll do a full extract because of the boil quantity, and i also cant see the advantage when i can get kits bittered to the amount I need with ...

heh, AC, I just brewed something thats turned out quite a bit like a kolsch, it was a whispering wheat can (I think its all barley in spite of the label) added some LDWM and LDME (muntons) and used the s33 - hoping for some sort of fruity thing happening!

Well its come off =- not bitter, bit of ...

2nd option, its a proper lager yeast, so carbonation is prob best at 14c or so (although room temp wont kill it), and then lagering in fridge for month or 3 for a proper lager. Although the local breweries call their beer "lager" and run a 7 day turnaround!

Da-Damage, my kegs are cleaned and sanitised with hot water.

It is my understanding that any amount of bleach will pitt/corrode stainless steel.

Let's be realistic, it is, after all, stainless steel. Unless they are already coroded, or the insides have been scratched or scored, I don't believe ...

hi, bleach is fine - you just need to rinse it with water a few times (till you cant smell it)

If you are emptying, then refilling straight away and putting back into fridge, then just a hot water rinse should do, as no further fermentation will take place in the fridge. If you are natural ...

Carbs,

It's alright, I did a Coopers Real Ale, and a Cascade Imperial Pale Ale, as well, also I may be wrong but are the Coopers Bitter, and Coopers Draught both "Ales"?

If so I've done them both also, and they all helped persuade me that Lager is my drink of choice.

In truth, until I get my ...

jubjub, sounds like temp will be fixed next time, but also consider ditching the brewing sugar if you are after taste. The sugar adds alcohol only, for more body etc add either the BE2 or 1/2 BE1 plus 500grams of light dried malt.

Sugar is for alcohol, malt is for beer! Insipid tasteless stuff can ...

paleman, i just skimmed a krausen for a yorkshire bitter, given that is the method used by the breweries who open ferment.

The idea is that autolysis is prevented because the spent yeast doest fall through and sit on the botom - might even help a brighter beer as well. I let mine sit in primary for ...