Yeast free/low yeast homebrew

[MJ]

Hi all,

I've visited this forum a few times now and find it very interesting.
Being relitively new to homebrewing, I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to make a yeast free/low yeast homebrew. Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks.

[gregb]

MJ,

Without yeast you will not have fermentation, therefore it will be nigh on impossible to brew a yeast free beer.

You may be able to filter out the yeast at bottling, but then you would have no yeasts for secondary carbonation and would have to resort to an artifical method.

Or are you talking about low sediment?

Cheers,

Greg.

[undercover1]

I once had a girlfriend (well, I've had several actually) who was a barmaid in an English pub. She kept getting...ummm...awkward yeast infections, which we figured were from the live ales. She asked the same question, and basically got the same answer- no yeast=no beer.
MJ, low sediment is good, and racking or finings will help you here. but low or no yeast will give you a very flat syrupy brew.

[MJ]

Greg, Undercover1,

Thanks for the advice. I thought it wouldn't be possible. I just had to ask though. I did do a google search and found this, http://hero.com/sapporo/techno.html, I guess this is as close to yeast free beer as it gets.
I would like to know more about how to get lower sediment, if you wouldn't mind giving me some tips. Thanks.

MJ

[Friar]

MJ

in relation to lowering sediment. I am part way through consuming the fruits of my labour and the brew of which I speak is a 2 can Malt shovel Deep Roast Ale with supplied yeast, made upto 23 litres (Geoff's 112).

It's been in the bottle (Crown lager) for 5 weeks now and the sediment will not shift unless you vigorously shake the bottle, not a wise step just before opening. Otherwise you have to wash it out with hot water after emptying the bottle.

Never had one settle this well before

The wish for a low/no yeast brew is it a dislike of cloudy beer?

The other option is distilled alcohol, carbon dioxide, a chemistry set, some flavourings and additives

Friar

[NTRabbit]

The other option is distilled alcohol, carbon dioxide, a chemistry set, some flavourings and additives

Which, coincidentally, is how they make VB

[MJ]

Friar,

I asked about the yeast free beer, because as Undercover1 put it, my girlfriend gets...ummm...awkward yeast infections.

MJ

[Dogger Dan]

I filter mine but there is enough micro to get a secondary fermentation so it wouldn't help with the yeast infections.

Have them drink more cranberry juice, this will change the pH sufficiantly that it will prevent the yeast infections.

And don't ask how I know that.

Dogger

[Oliver]

Friar,

I asked about the yeast free beer, because as Undercover1 put it, my girlfriend gets...ummm...awkward yeast infections.

MJ

Is there really a correlation between imbibing yeast and "awkward yeast infections"? I mean, the yeast would have to survive the acid in your stomach, pass through your small intestines then your large intestines, and finally your bladder.

I'm no doctor, but I would have thought that the only way of contracting a yeast infection from beer is if you're pouring it over her to combine your two favorite things in life.

Maybe the consumption of yeast affects the system's PH, leaving one more susceptible to yeast infection?

As for reducing sediment, Dogger Dan will tell you to rack. I'll tell you to use Safale or Saflager, which stick to the bottom of the bottle like concrete (well, not quite).

Cheers,

Oliver

[MJ]

Oliver,

You may not be a doctor, but you have hit the nail on the head. The yeast upsets the body's PH levels and thus getting the awkward yeast infections. Dogger Dan knows a bit more than he is willing to tell I think, bit he's right. The docter said the same thing, to drink cranberry juice. As far as I am aware, pouring beer over her body wouldn't cause any infections. I think in that lies my answer.

Call me ignorant if you wish, but what is Safale or Saflager? Being new and all, I haven't yet come across this.

MJ

[NTRabbit]

Oliver,

Call me ignorant if you wish, but what is Safale or Saflager? Being new and all, I haven't yet come across this.

MJ

Its a brand of yeast you can buy Safale, Saflager and Safwheat being common ones.
http://www.dclyeast.co.uk/DCL_Main/main ... orange.htm

[Oliver]

Oliver,

Call me ignorant if you wish, but what is Safale or Saflager? Being new and all, I haven't yet come across this.

MJ

Its a brand of yeast you can buy Safale, Saflager and Safwheat being common ones.
http://www.dclyeast.co.uk/DCL_Main/main ... orange.htm

... commonly used and recommended because they're cheap (much cheaper than liquid yeast) and good.

Obviously Safale is an ale yeast and Saflager is a lager

The Saflager is particularly good, as being a lager yeast it will ferment down to 9C, with 12C being the optimum, according to the website.

Many "lagers" (Cooper's Lager being one) don't come with a lager yeast, but an ale yeast, so if you want that true lager crispness you'll need to use a lager yeast (such as Saflager) and brew at a nice cool temperature. Although having said that if you're just using the kit and a kilo of fermentables you probably would be fine using the yeast that comes with the kit.

Do a search for saflager and/or safale and you'll turn up plenty more information on this forum.

Cheers,

Oliver

[MJ]

All,

Thanks for the advice. I did a search through this forum and found a lot of really helpful information.

MJ

[Oliver]

Guys,

Below is the reply from my cousin the doctor about yeast in beer causing yeast infections in women.

Cheers,

Oliver

"I can't think of any logical, medical reason why people would associate the imbibing of a yeast-fermented beverage with developing a genital yeast infection. Different parts of the body, people. Maybe she needs a tutorial on safe drinking. Food goes in here ...

"Besides, brewers' yeast and the organism causing vaginal thrush are entirely different (imagine if they weren't, I don't think I'd be drinking!).

"Put this on your website: Get over your squeamishness, treat the infection, get a few beers into you and stop worrying. That's my medical opinion.

"Maybe this is what it feels like to be Dr Phil. No, wait. He's a multi-millionaire. I guess I'll never know."

[Friar]

Oliver

Seeing your cousin is doing "webcalls".....um I have this umm umm problem er um spots umm itchyness ....

F

[MJ]

I did a bit more internet surfing and found this,

Finally, drinking beer and yeast infections are quite unrelated. It would be very rare to have a vaginal yeast infection that developed from contact with brewer's yeast or baker's yeast. These case reports, however, would make for very interesting reading

As I was reading Oliver's reply, she was standing behind me reading it and to quote her exact words it went like this, "Tell that Oliver to tell his cousin, that I'm well aware of how to f---ing drink thank you." Sorry bout that. I'll be sure that she is not around next time I'm on this website.

It turns out, it isn't a yeast infection after all. It's hard to find good doctors up here.

[Dogger Dan]

Oliver,

As an aside, can he show me how to drink, it seems to keep dripping out the hole in chin or out the side of my mouth. And can someone explain why the 23rd bottle is always skunky?

Thanks
Dogger

[gregb]

I think I've got the drinking thing straight, I just need more practice, lots more practice, thats all.

Cheers,

Greg

[db]

Oliver,

As an aside, can he show me how to drink, it seems to keep dripping out the hole in chin or out the side of my mouth. And can someone explain why the 23rd bottle is always skunky?

Thanks
Dogger

your obviously not using the right size funnel Dogger

[grabman]

the only drinking problem I have is two hands and only one mouth! Can be tricky to get it in without spillage some nights!

oh yeah and the problem in my sig!