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Dry-hop timeframe

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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know an optimal timeframe that dry hopping works in i.e is there a beneift in leaving it for more than week, can you get away with leaving it for less than a week, and what are the scientific reasons behind this.

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Everything I have seen suggests 3 days, not sure why though sorry.
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All I can add is that if you leave it for less than a week you run the risk of filling bottles with hops. In my limited experience it takes around that long for them to settle out.
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6-7 days works for me, scientific reason NFI.............
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bottle top wrote:All I can add is that if you leave it for less than a week you run the risk of filling bottles with hops. In my limited experience it takes around that long for them to settle out.
Try a tea infuser ball, they work wonders!
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Kevnlis wrote:
bottle top wrote:All I can add is that if you leave it for less than a week you run the risk of filling bottles with hops. In my limited experience it takes around that long for them to settle out.
Try a tea infuser ball, they work wonders!
Not a bad idea... I reckon you'd have to add more hops for the same effect though. Thinking about doing the same during the boil so that I have a nice clean yeast cake to reuse.
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i have found reusable silk/nylon (not sure) tea bags that are very similar to the finishing hop bags except you can reuse them. they seal simply by folding the bag over itself. they are about 3cm x 4cm.

They cost 40c each and i found them at a coffee/tea boutique shop...

I havent used them yet, but i reckon they might be a goer...

Just another option for anyone who wants to dry hop and doesnt want the hops pieces in their beer. I would try the tea infusers, but made in china, i have a feeling the stainless steel might rust a little while in the beer.
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James L wrote:i have found reusable silk/nylon (not sure) tea bags that are very similar to the finishing hop bags except you can reuse them. they seal simply by folding the bag over itself. they are about 3cm x 4cm.

They cost 40c each and i found them at a coffee/tea boutique shop...

I havent used them yet, but i reckon they might be a goer...

Just another option for anyone who wants to dry hop and doesnt want the hops pieces in their beer. I would try the tea infusers, but made in china, i have a feeling the stainless steel might rust a little while in the beer.
The rust has started to worry me too. I noticed the old ball I have has started to look a bit corroded, and the solders on the spring clamp balls I have were corroded from first use!

I do have a few plastic jobbies I use for dry hopping (found them at K-Mart for $0.50 each, they are called "just a microwave coffee maker" or something like that) and they work great!

How do you think the nylon will hold up over time of being boiled and soaked wet and then dry and cool? I reckon it would go brittle rather quickly.
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Well they are made to be able to withstand boiling water for 5 minutes as they are tea infusing bags, but i think extended period in boiling water 5mins + will destroy the joins rather quickly.

As for the nylon itself, it looks like food grade so i dont think that'll perish too much.

I guess this is the main reason why i'd only ever use them for dry hopping or for finishing hops, and not so much boiling. I dont think that sitting in 20C water for a week or so will effect them that much.

I'll keep you posted, as i plan to use them in the next few days to dry hop my JSGA clone with amarillo and my oktoberfest lager with herbrucker...
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James L wrote:Well they are made to be able to withstand boiling water for 5 minutes as they are tea infusing bags, but i think extended period in boiling water 5mins + will destroy the joins rather quickly.

As for the nylon itself, it looks like food grade so i dont think that'll perish too much.

I guess this is the main reason why i'd only ever use them for dry hopping or for finishing hops, and not so much boiling. I dont think that sitting in 20C water for a week or so will effect them that much.

I'll keep you posted, as i plan to use them in the next few days to dry hop my JSGA clone with amarillo and my oktoberfest lager with herbrucker...
Yeah dry hopping should be no worries! I might break down and fork out the $6 a pop and get the good hop balls off Ross.
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I actually picked up a big bastard from HOUSE. I think its called a Teaball... it cost 12 bucks, but it could hold about 100g of hop pellets no worries... I have a feeling that it might be made by the same company that does the small ones....

Once again, i've yet to try it... Bloody wasting my money on stuff i dont use....
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What is house? You do realise the pellets expand ALOT!?!? I would be VERY interested in getting one of those!
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I did find this one (it is called "S/s Tea Ball Infuser 6.2cm on chain"):

http://www.ibtea.com.au/category9_1.htm

Looks big enough to get the job done, and quality enough not to rust if taken care of properly!

Also that $7 includes GST and Post! I ordered one :P
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Yeh mate thats the thing i bought...
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James L wrote:Yeh mate thats the thing i bought...
I will be doing a brew tonght so I will let you know then ;)
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If the hops expand alot, you'd still be ok to put 50g of hops in there.... not that you would really ever dry hop with 50g of hops...
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James L wrote:If the hops expand alot, you'd still be ok to put 50g of hops in there.... not that you would really ever dry hop with 50g of hops...
My Three Floyds Dreadnaught is dry hopped with 40g all up!
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WOW WEE.... i'm reluctant to put anymore than about 15-20g of hops in to dry hop... i think things might soon change.... What is this dreadnaught? and what sort of hops did you DH with? it sounds interesting...
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James L wrote:WOW WEE.... i'm reluctant to put anymore than about 15-20g of hops in to dry hop... i think things might soon change.... What is this dreadnaught? and what sort of hops did you DH with? it sounds interesting...
LOL, it is an AG IPA from the US, top rated brew!

the recipe is as follows, I have modified it a bit to suit the hops I have on hand, it originally used centenial, warrior and cascade but I subbed amarillo in for the centenial.

8.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 94.12 %
0.50 kg Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
10.00 gm Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.1 IBU
15.00 gm Pacific Gem [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 18.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (45 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 10.6 IBU
30.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) Yeast-Ale

Any strong ale yeast should do fine.
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How about pouring the tea out of a tea bag, filling it with hop pellets and stappling it closed???
I'm sure you could get about 10g in one of those, so maybe use a couple???
Any ideas
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