keg valve

Robbo · Post by **Robbo** » Sunday Mar 20, 2005 11:39 am

Here's another stupid question from a novice. I have just been given a couple of CUB kegs. I know that I will need to get a regulator and assorted bits and pieces, but how do I get the valve out to clean the kegs and put the brew in?

normell · Post by **normell** » Sunday Mar 20, 2005 3:47 pm

You could send it back to CUB.
Did CUB give it to you, or did you steal it (if your best friend's second cousin removed gave it to you, it is still stolen)
Just as easy to set up with LEGAL keg's
Normell

Robbo · Post by **Robbo** » Sunday Mar 20, 2005 6:20 pm

Fair call but no they are not stolen or the result of any nefarious activity. I was given them by the son of an ex publican (recently deceased). They were just sitting in his dad's garage and were otherwise going to be thrown out. Fortunately he mentioned them to me before this happened. Unfortunately he never had much to do with his dad and couldn't tell me anything about the valve.

normell · Post by **normell** » Sunday Mar 20, 2005 7:23 pm

Just be careful Robbo, they "ALWAYS REMAIN THE PROPERTY OF CUB"
Even if your mate's dad died, they wernt his to start with anyway.
Normell

BPJ · Post by **BPJ** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 3:50 pm

Robbo said -

Fair call but no they are not stolen or the result of any nefarious activity

Robbo, hate to disappoint you but YES they are stolen. Generally called "theft by finding" i.e. I found this and have made no attempt to locate the owner.

Legally anything you find you have to make reasonable attempts to locate the owner and then take it to the police who will try to locate the owner. If they can't after 3 months then its yours. This is in Victoria, but other states, countries etc would be similar. Same goes for milkcrates bread crates etc. I think i said that the other day.

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 5:06 pm

Does having a squizz around and asking someone nearby if they know to whom it belongs constitute sufficent attempt at locating the owner?

Greg

Robbo · Post by **Robbo** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 7:42 pm

I'm very touched by the concern you have all shown me regarding my accidental stumble into a criminal lifestyle, and I am just about ready to surrender my ill-gotten booty to the authorities. However I am still curious (for purely academic reasons) to know how the valve of one of these suckers would be removed. I'm reasonably confident that officer -in-charge of my local cop shop is likely to ask me. (he being a home brewer, and a man with an eye for an opportunity. But maybe I'm being presumptuous)

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 10:11 pm

Robbo,

Use the kegs, you will still get to heaven. Surely the police have more important criminals to catch. It is like burning a CD or a tape.

Just my take and I will not be held responsible if you go to jail

Dogger

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 10:24 pm

Robbo,

Why would you want to remove the valve ? What you would do is to fill the keg through the beer fitting (without putting gas on it). Now I know you aren't going to use these kegs, but if you were you still have the trouble of flushing the sediment and crud that often accumulates around the sides of a keg of homebrew. So yeah, between them being impractical for homebrewers and constantly being a fugitive of Mr Carlton, you'd be better off spending $70 on a corny keg.

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Monday Mar 21, 2005 10:40 pm

but if you want the extra volume, find someone who can cut a the top of a corny and weld onto your 50L DIN! Just a thought

Robbo · Post by **Robbo** » Wednesday Mar 23, 2005 6:48 pm

Grabman, you are a genius!

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Wednesday Mar 23, 2005 7:29 pm

mmmmm not a term I'm usually associated with, crackpot is more normal.

BUt if you find someone who can do this, especially in Perth area let me know. I have a 50L keg, from UK (cheers Phil!) that I'm thinking of trying this with. However welding needs to be food grade stainless and bloody perfect!!!

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Wednesday Mar 23, 2005 9:45 pm

I remember seeing one of these at the Brew Shop in Peakhurst Sydney. Doesn't help you much Grab, but yeah, it can definitely be done.

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Wednesday Mar 23, 2005 10:10 pm

Do you have to pressure test it? (I am serious here)

Dogger

Hrundi V Bakshi · Wednesday Mar 23, 2005 10:20 pm

Dogger Dan wrote:Do you have to pressure test it? (I am serious here)

Dogger

Of course you would. I am thinking if it is not holding pressure, the best thing that can happen is waste gas. Worst is something else.

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Thursday Mar 24, 2005 10:04 am

for sure Dogger, that's why hte weld has to be spot on, also needs to be a "clean" weld to help keep nasties out!

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Thursday Mar 24, 2005 10:06 pm

Well,

If you have to pressure test it, wouldn't the pressure test police rat you out to the Keg police? And what about the sanitary weld people, who knows what would happen there, maybe the freon police would get involved.........

Oh, just imagine the darkness, I can see the headlines now

Dogger

Hrundi V Bakshi · Thursday Mar 24, 2005 10:44 pm

Mr Dan, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from the Police.

Evo · Post by **Evo** » Friday Mar 25, 2005 6:07 pm

Yeah, and by the time you get someone to "cut and shut" your corny fittings to your keg you'd be up for a packet I'd imagine (not to mention many a sleepless nights with all those police after you).

Corny keg, "reconditioned", $70. Much easier.