Not using kits ,but DME instead

[sidman]

I have seen this on this forum a few times ,people not using kits but 3 Kgs or so of DME instead how does this work ,is it any cheaper and whats involved ,you must have to boil hops and a bit of steeped grain i am guessing ,is the beer any better than using a kit and a kilo of DME,anybody got a recipe for a good pale ale using this method ,very interested.

[Boonie]

Not any cheaper unless you buy in bulk. Dearer in fact

Hops is a must, your choice really of what hops to use.

I am looking at a LDM/Liquid extract mix myself.......I do not have the gear for AG

I did a Golden Ale recipe from Ash on this site. It was OK but lacked the mouthfeel or bitterness I was used to. Very Drinkable though IMO. . Very hoppy ......

I have been researching Gravity/Hops ratios and SG/OG to FG ratios too, to determine what is best.

A few links to assist that I found tonight on this site with links and Google

http://www.liquorcraft.com.au/wa.asp?id ... etails=107

http://www.howtobrew.com/images/metricibu.pdf

http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter5-5.html

http://www.brewsupplies.com/hops-gravity.htm

I have seen these many times and thought......Ah just chuck it in and see what happens , but these give specific instructions

Cheers

Boonie

[brew.exe]

One of the first i did was the snpa clone here is a link to the recipe.

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... light=snpa

and it turned out great.

[The Carbonator]

A good German Pils:

3kg DME
250g Pilsner grain steeped 30mins at 75°C (add 100g crystal too if you like)

30g Hallertau 60min
15g Saaz 30mins
15g Saaz 5mins
(for whole wort boil)

1.5 - 2L starter of a good Liquid Lager yeast

Rack at 1018-1020
lager for as long as you can wait.

[Rod]

Bonnie ,

I have done partials , but no all grain

have you read about the BIAB ( brew in a bag ) method

I have just got the bag and the bug to do and will see how I go

see site

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... opic=11694

[Boonie]

Bonnie ,

I have done partials , but no all grain

have you read about the BIAB ( brew in a bag ) method

I have just got the bag and the bug to do and will see how I go

see site

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... opic=11694

Thanks Rod, I have saved the doc. and will investigate a very large pot or maybe 2.......the largest I have seen is 19 Litres but it was cheap and nasty....

Any idea where to get the bag? I like that idea.

I taped a HB show on FOX on saturday with all grain, sparging etc, the bag looks easier.

Cheers

Boonie

[ryan]

Which was the show on cable you taped on Saturday?
They always repeat them so I`ll have a look myself.
Thanks.

[Fents]

Shows Called : Special Brew last week he made a lager i think.

Its on lifestyle channel in 80% sure.

Buy the biggest pot you can afford. 100litres if you can, cause you'll just end up buying another if you move to AG.

[Boonie]

Shows Called : Special Brew last week he made a lager i think.

Its on lifestyle channel in 80% sure.

Buy the biggest pot you can afford. 100litres if you can, cause you'll just end up buying another if you move to AG.

That's the show......

Check out the Redheaded guys hairstyle.....classic

[Trough Lolly]

A good German Pils:

3kg DME
250g Pilsner grain steeped 30mins at 75°C (add 100g crystal too if you like)

30g Hallertau 60min
15g Saaz 30mins
15g Saaz 5mins
(for whole wort boil)

1.5 - 2L starter of a good Liquid Lager yeast

Rack at 1018-1020
lager for as long as you can wait.

Was 75C a typo? Did you mean 65C? Pilsner malt is a base malt and I'd be a bit worried about denaturing the alpha and beta amylase enzymes if you mashed it above 70C. 250g is a bit light on - with all that DME, you'd get a better outcome if you mashed at least 500g pils malt - the more the better...I guess it becomes a matter of having a big enough pot to mash and sparge the grains...
Cheers,
TL

[The Carbonator]

woopseedaisy.
what was I thinking?

Yeah, it was diffinately 65*C. (you dont even have be an AGer to know that 75*C is too high for pils malt)

Thanks for picking up my silliness TR.
Good work, as always.