Tooheys old

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Tooheys old

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Hi guys, My father in-law has asked me to brew him a Tooheys Old clone. I dont usually drink black beer so I wouldnt know where to start. Can someone give me a shove in the right direction as to ingredients to use. Any help would be great.
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I have done two of the following, and it's mine, and my wife's opinion this is better than the Tooheys Old you buy:

Tooheys Classic Dark Ale kit,
Dark Amber sugars (mine from Country brewer) - 500g dextrose, 300g light malt, 200g dark malt,
I add 250g dextrose for a little more kick (alcohol),

Pretty simple and a very nice beer - a very reasonable clone of the Tooheys Old.

I bulk prime with 180g dextrose, but the first time I stuffed that and had to add some sucrose(white sugar), and I reckon in future when I do it again, I'll use sucrose again rather than dex, as it was a bit sweeter, and seemed smoother.
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thanks for the repl scblack, will try after my Pale comes out. Do you use any hops with this or is there no need?
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Punter wrote:thanks for the repl scblack, will try after my Pale comes out. Do you use any hops with this or is there no need?
Cheers.
I don't use any hops with this one, it has pretty good aroma and flavour as is.
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Post by Wassa »

Tooheys Old is my favorite tipple, so I brew it all the time. Here is my recipe, which if I say so myself is that close to the real thing you can't tell the difference:

1 x Tooheys Dark Ale can
1kg of Country Brewers Stout mix (600gm Dark malt and 400gm Maltodextrin)
Willamette teabag added to mixture when fermenter is full (use like a teabag and add boiling wate4r to a coffee mug and leave to steep for 10 mins then add everything to fermenter)
Bulk prime with dextrose theen leave mature in bottle for 3 months.

It is bloody beautiful.
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Post by bryandamage »

big fan on old myself. usually drink it although i've got a cooper's pale ale thing going on right now.
new to homebrewing so i'm not into my own brews yet. but i'll be trying these recipes before long.
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Did a coopers stout to 23l with 200 dex and 150 dark malt with saaz teabag that gave a ripper "old"
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Post by da_damage_done »

I put down an old down about a month ago and tried a few longies yesterday and today

Surprisingly it tastes more like Guinness than Old

Here's the recipe

1 can Morgan's Australian Old
1kg Stout Mix (500g Dark dried malt extract, 250g Light dried malt extract, 250g Maltodextrin)
Old infusion pack (220g grain - Crystal, chocolate & roast, 15g Willamette hops)

Steep grains in 70 degree water for 20mins, add hops for last 7-8mins. Strain mixture into fermenter. Add other ingredients - 23ltrs. FG 1014

It was quite bitter but not overpowering - The grains have done wonders to it.
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Where did you get the old infusion pack from?
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Post by da_damage_done »

I got it from

Blue Mountain Brews

http://www.bmbrews.com.au

It was $3.75
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thanks. lots of other good stuff there too :!:
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Thanks for the recipes guys, the Old is bubbling away nicely now. Smells great. I'll let you know how it turns out :wink:
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Punter wrote:Thanks for the recipes guys, the Old is bubbling away nicely now. Smells great. I'll let you know how it turns out :wink:
What recipe did you go with?
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Sc, i ended up going for a mixture of the recipes, will see how it pans out.
Tooheys Classic Dark Ale Kit
500gm Dark Malt
250gm corn syrup
250gm Dex
200gm Crystal
15gm Willemette

Went away for a couple of days and when we got home fermenter was sitting on 30* :shock: :x
Cooled then bottled. Just have to wait and see how it tastes :roll:
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Punter wrote:
Went away for a couple of days and when we got home fermenter was sitting on 30* :shock: :x
Cooled then bottled. Just have to wait and see how it tastes :roll:
i read that the darker brews can tend to mask any off flavours.
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The darker, or heavier the beer, the warmer you drink the beer, is the general wisdom (to a degree). eg.lagers 4celsius, stouts 10celsius roughly.

Does this translate to the fermenting/brew process as well? or is it a completely separate issue?
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yep.. seperate issue...

I have had a porter (bordering on stout) made with a larger yeast and it was nice ~10 degrees and would have been brewed at ~10

depends on the yeast... the wyeast page gives temps for all their yeasts... http://www.wyeastlab.com/beprlist.htm
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MHD wrote:yep.. seperate issue...

I have had a porter (bordering on stout) made with a larger yeast and it was nice ~10 degrees and would have been brewed at ~10

depends on the yeast... the wyeast page gives temps for all their yeasts... http://www.wyeastlab.com/beprlist.htm
Makes natural sense that it's separate issue, of course doesn't it :oops: . The brewing is an action of the yeast at work, and drinking temps can be anything after the process is finished.

Thanks for that MHD.
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Post by Brownie »

The Morgans Australian Old, with Safale yeast and Brew Enhancer 2, for a simple recipe comes very close

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Tried one the other night, 2 weeks in bottle and not a bad beer at all considering the 30* brewing temp :shock: :oops:
Nice head, good carb, good body, a touch sweet. Father in-law very happy, thanks. See how it tastes in another month. :wink:
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