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Out of date by heaps

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Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003 :shock:
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it
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racer wrote:Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003 :shock:
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it
No 2, just do not use the yeast that came with it. :D

Speaking of out of date tins. Big W has a Malt Shovel can that was not there yesterday, 1 only, "Managers Special" for $11 something. Expiry date of 3/07....great special :shock: not. I knew it was odd as they stopped selling Malt Shovel ages ago.

Is that legal? Surely not, misleading describing it as a "Special" I think it should state that it is out of date. They obviously found it out the back storeroom and thought bugger it, some sucket will buy it for nearly full price.

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Just picked up a can of Coopers Wheat with a yeast B/B date of 2002!!!

Will be ditching the yeast and possibly using it for a base for a dunkel. Am I running the risk of the bittering stuff going off? I don't really care if it's off-colour for obvious reasons.
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ha good topic

i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,

any sugestions on what to do with it ???
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benson wrote:ha good topic

i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,

any sugestions on what to do with it ???
Add lots of fresh grain and hops and do not try to use the yeast ;)
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with something like out of date yeast, i read somewhere that if you use premium yeast then you can add the kit-yeast yeast to the boil, and since it kills that yeast, it just acts as food for the premium yeast... if this is the case, can you use out of date yeast in the boil and use it as food as you would for in-date kit-yeast, or will it produce off flavours?

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benson wrote:ha good topic

i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,

any sugestions on what to do with it ???
You could use it for yeast starters if you want. But that's a lot of starters!
Or just chuck in a kilo of table sugar and give it to your megaswilling mates.
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Boonie wrote:
racer wrote:Out of date may be an underestimate
Its just a coopers original draught from years ago before I busted my fermentor & never renewed it until I could have a keg system.
Best before 28/09/2003 :shock:
What can I do
1.Boil and treat like unhoped malt
2.Suck it and see
3.Bin it

No 2, just do not use the yeast that came with it. :D
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Don't do it.

Beer will taste stale, and will be of a darker colourtion than u expect
Always alwasy.. do a serch.
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I just scored 12 or so cans from an ex-brewer of out of date 2006/2007 Coopers, Cascade, a few Brigalow Ginger Beers and Cider, Blackrock Whispering Wheat, Cider as well. Can't remember them all. Am looking forward to throwing a few quaffers together with new yeasts.

Q. Is the yeast for the ciders the same as an ale yeast? :oops:
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munkee wrote:Don't do it.

Beer will taste stale, and will be of a darker colourtion than u expect
I agree that the coulor is different but i have done a few kits that have been a fair bit out of date and they certainly didnt taste stale :wink:
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bellboys backyard brew wrote:Q. Is the yeast for the ciders the same as an ale yeast? :oops:
Possibly, possibly not. Ciders, meads and lemonades are more acidic that your average ale, which might cause some issues with your yeast. I'd probably go with the kit yeast even though it's slightly past its use-by date. Might be worth making a starter or proofing it tho.
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I used an out of date can of Blackrock cider with a can of coopers blonde as an experiment, both yeasts were tossed in. The end result was about 9.5% but is quite drinkable. I reckon you could use ale yeast with cider only but would expect some different flavours. The bloke at the HBS offered to sell me in date cider yeast so you could properly pick some up.
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Out of date kit?

Possibly stale?

Add 20g of Amarillo, boil hard for an hour and you'll be fine! :twisted:
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Trough Lolly wrote:Out of date kit?

Possibly stale?

Add 20g of Amarillo, boil hard for an hour and you'll be fine! :twisted:
What time schedule would that be at. Not the full hour shorly.
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Just cracked open the can of Coopers Wheat (BB 2002...). Jeez it was dark!!! I'm making a hefeweizen (partial) and I think I was a bit heavy handed on the choc malts so this will be a dark one indeed..... Will post back tasting notes
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I had an out of date can of muntons continetal pilsner... it was supposed to be straw colour.. I have to tell everyone who drinks it that its a dunkel... tastes alright though... just not what i expected.
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timmy wrote:Just cracked open the can of Coopers Wheat (BB 2002...). Jeez it was dark!!! I'm making a hefeweizen (partial) and I think I was a bit heavy handed on the choc malts so this will be a dark one indeed..... Will post back tasting notes
You've just made yourself a Dunkelweizen.....
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I meant a dunkel....
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benson wrote:ha good topic

i just scored a unused frementer and bottles and bits and peices and 2 cans of coopers larger went out of date in 2003 ,

any sugestions on what to do with it ???
any way i did it with just a new yeast and coopers BE2 it is heaps darker !!!than normal !!!

doesnt taste too bad either , hope i dont get any side effects from drinking it :lol: :roll:
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