Two cans in one brew

[Oliver]

Over on the Cooper's Club site a bloke from the brewery suggests a nice brew is a can of Pale Ale and a can of Nut Brown Ale (recently discontinued, so don't delay on this one), made up to 23 litres with both yeasts.

Haven't made it myself, but might be worth a try.

Cheers,

Oliver

[Antsvb]

Disappointed the nut brown ale has been discontinued. Went to get one yesterday only to be told this by my hbs guy.

[Dogger Dan]

Are they repalcing it with anything?

Dogger

[Antsvb]

Yeah seemed like they had the other 3 in that range (Brewmaster range???) with an "Irish Stout" as the 4th. The range was called something else with the Thomas Coopers range type label on them. Will have to check their website.

[Antsvb]

Nah. nothing new on the website.
Quite annoyed as I was going to use the nut brown ale as my "Ashes Ale" now that free to air tv rights have been secured for the forth coming ashes contest. Is there any kit around that is similar?

[Oliver]

I can't say i'm surprised that there's nothing on the Cooper's site, as much of it is out of date or contains dead links to other bits of the site. I've told them, as have others, but nothing gets fixed.

Anyway, here's a message from their messageboard from a Cooper's employee:

In the first week of March Coopers will release the NEW Brewmaster range under the banner of Thomas Cooper Brewmaster Selection.

A new brew joins this selection and the retained brews now display more individual character. I shed a tear for Nut Brown Ale but sales figures showed that it had to make room for a new brew...enter Irish Stout.

These brews will be available at your local HomeBrew specialist store and the Coopers General Store.

The Brews are:

Pilsener - more overt SAAZ character,
Wheat Beer - more malted wheat,
IPA (India Pale Ale) - now a seriously hopped beer in the style of a traditional IPA.
Irish Stout - roasted barley, in this brew, is the key ingredient in famous stouts like Guinness and Murphy's Stout.

The Brewmaster Selection development work has covered the past 24 months and our Master Brewers are certainly happy with the final results.

I have to admit to drinking through many a keg of excellent experimental product, last year's winter drinking of the Irish Stout prototypes was a delicious chore that no employee should have to suffer, savour, salivate over!!

Anyway, off to the Perth Coopers Club night, I will respond to your questions and give you more information about the Brewmaster Selection on my return - Friday.

Meantime, message-board readers are the first to know!

Cheers!

Paul

[BPJ]

Brewmaster Irissh Stouts sounds good. I have only just bottled and sampled Maltshovel Nut Brown. Never sampled Nut brown before and loved it. Nice strong malty tasted, with slight burnt flavour.

Don't understand why Coopers have to discontinue it to make way for a new style, why can't they just add a new style?

[Oliver]

No one was buying it

Oliver

[Franky]

greg b it was Coles at Hurstville, but it isn't available all the time - only when they want to get rid of old stock, they ditch it on the discount trolley. There were only two cans there, so it seemed like destiny that they would be in the same brew. I haven't seen any cans on discount since.

That new Coopers range sounds great. Are they actually improving the ones they already make?

[Dogger Dan]

I used the nut for a base for many a good recipe. I can't see me doing the same with the stout......especially as I am not a big fan of that style.




Dogger

[db]

what about subbing the dark ale? i read last week tha the ibu's & colour were similar.. cant remember where i found it (or if its acurate for that matter - but you could try & confirm with coopers i guess):

Coopers Pale Ale
Color (°SRM) - 4.5
IBU - 18

Coopers Canadian Blonde
Color (°SRM) - 3.6
IBU - 21

Coopers Bavarian Lager
Color (°SRM) - 4.5
IBU - 21

Coopers India Pale Ale
Color (°SRM) - 12.2
IBU - 22.9

Coopers Nutbrown
Color (°SRM) -23.0
IBU - 31.0

Coopers Wheat beer
Color (°SRM) - 3.6
IBU - 17.5

Coopers Pilsener
Color (°SRM) - 3.6
IBU - 22.6

Coopers Classic Old Dark ale
Color (°SRM) - 20.3
IBU - 28

Coopers Draught
Color (°SRM) - 4.5
IBU - 20

Coopers Bitter
Color (°SRM) - 15.2
IBU - 32

Coopers Lager
Color (°SRM) - 4.5
IBU - 21

Coopers Stout
Color (°SRM) - 65.9
IBU - 43

Coopers Real Ale
Color (°SRM) - 8.1
IBU - 29

[Troy]

Currently brewing "brewmaster" Irish Stout.
-500gm dark malt
-150gm lactose
-350gm dextrose
-150gm honey (dogger inspired, maybe not enough to make a difference?)

Boiled for 30 mins and lame yeast starter used.
Let you know how it goes.
Very low starting S.G. of 1040. If it gets to 1010 the alc. vol. will only be 4.2%. I thought approx 1kg of fermentable sugars would produce a % of about 5.
Does boiling affect these sugars in any way?.

[Oliver]

Troy,

Boiling shouldn't affect the sugars. Just off the top of my head, I reckon 1040 sounds more or less right for those ingredients.

Cheers,

Oliver

[Dogger Dan]

Colour maybe

Further up in the thread db has some IBU's for some beer kits. Does anyone have anymore? I am making a recipie generator and was having difficulty with the kits. This helps nicely

Dogger

[ozinjapan]

Hi,

Similar question so I thought I`d post here rather than start a new topic.

Im ready to start my 4th batch, Ive been using 1 can of Beer concentrate (1.7kg) and 1kg of Muntons DME to brew 23 litres. Up to now I`ve found that the beers have been tasting fine(although a bit weak), but they seem to have a low alcohol content.

A homebrew shop in Japan has suggested that I use 2 x 1.7kg cans of Beer concentrate a 28gram hop pellet and no extra sugar. They also suggested that I use both yeast sachets which will be included with the concentrate kits.

Does anybody have any opinions on using this technique? The concentrate I`ll be using is Blackrock New Zealand Company Bitter and Hallertau aroma hops.

Thanks

[db]

ozinjapan - i usually use tins of lager as they tend to be lower in ibu's.. by using 2 tins you double the ibu's. 2 cans of bitter could be too bitter

[Guest]

1 can of coopers bitter and 1 can of coopers lager with some fuggles in the secondary makes an excellant beer. close to an ipa. high bitterness but really smooth drop with a rich copper colour. rehydrate your yeast or use a liquid english ale yeast which has been stepped up in a starter wort.
piss off the sugars and go all malt no matter what beer you are making. you will notice the difference.

[Hrundi V Bakshi]

piss off the sugars and go all malt <deletia> you will notice the difference.

Indeed. This makes the hugest difference.

I am currently sipping a Cascade Golden Harvest Lager kit made up with dry extract and a handful of halltertau hops and it tastes superb. Same kit with dextrose and I cringe at the thought isn't it.

Very humbly begging your pardon, having made one Coopers Australian Pale Ale kit with 1Kg malt extract plus 500g golden syrup, I must to respectfully disagree with your words "no matter what beer you are making".

[the Baron]

I am a fan of Coopers Dark Ale, any ideas on how two cans of this would go in a brew??

[gregb]

Probably very nice. I imagine it would come out as a fairly full bodied porter style. Give it try, let us know. Old Dark goes very well with a Stout.

Greg