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Yo,

I'm looking to make a Beez Neez clone and in preparation bought a wheat beer mix and malt but am unsure how and when to add honey. From the discussions I've had with people and looking round the net there seems to be no consensus as to whether to add the honey before or after fermentation and also the volume of honey to be used.

If anyone has any ideas/experiences on a good wheat beer recipe that would be great.

Cheers

Jon

hi jon, i just bottled my wheat beer today. i used 300g of honey and added it 10 mins before flame out.... here's my recipe, probably not the best out there but i'm sure you'll have no trouble finding honey wheat recipes in this section. was a great help for me, but anyway, here's mine...

1.7kg Coopers Brewmaster Wheat Beer Mix
1.5kg Coopers Wheat Malt Extract
12g Hallertau Hops
12g Cascade Hops (dry)
300g Yellow Box Honey
15g Brew Cellar Wheat Beer Yeast
2L Boiling Water
Filled to 23L

OG: 1047
FG: 1011
Approx alcohol: 5.0%

Thanks for the help Steve.

Just one quick question - what does the term "flame out" mean?

Cheers

jon117 wrote:Thanks for the help Steve.

Just one quick question - what does the term "flame out" mean?

Cheers

Pretty much how it sounds. It represents the end of your 'boil'. If you're doing a 30 minute boil, then you would add the hops, in this case, at the 20 minute mark.

Before fermentation and 500grams. Also make sure that it's a non flavoured honey.

500g would make for a strong honey flavour, more than Beez Neez has in fact. I recently made a Canadian Blonde with 500g honey and it was very honey-ie. But I also primed with honey so that might have made a difference.

timmy wrote:500g would make for a strong honey flavour, more than Beez Neez has in fact. I recently made a Canadian Blonde with 500g honey and it was very honey-ie. But I also primed with honey so that might have made a difference.

I thought BeezNezz was equal quantities wheat, barley, honey - that would make it over 1.5kg of honey?

cheers Ross

If that's the case I'm surprised it doesn't have more of a honey taste!

Pale_Ale wrote:If that's the case I'm surprised it doesn't have more of a honey taste!

Yep - there's more of a honey flavour in a Leffe Blonde than Beez Neez and as far as I know, Leffe Blonde doesn't even have honey.

I have done this one and it is as simple as anything

Morgan's Wheat Beer kit
500g light dry malt extract
1kg honey

It was one of my first brews so I just dumped it all in the fermenter, stirred like a madman till I was stuffed, pitched the yeast, sealed her up and off she went. Racked after a week, left it for another week and bottle primed with dextrose. It came out beautiful, I found it quite like Beez Neez as did some friends that never drink homebrew. I did find it a touch sweet, just a touch, and it is quite a "heavy" beer, not alcohol heavy but heavy in the sense that it fills you up. When I do it again I will add some hops to balance out the sweetness a bit and maybe back the honey off just a bit, maybe 100-200 gms.

All in all though, a very tasty brew

we have always added the honey right after adding the brew kit, it doesnt seem to do anything to the beer if it is added then and i think it adds a better flavour if it is in for longer, i have also tried this method with a honey cherry beer with great effects

Honey tends to dry a brew out rather than add flavour. Due to being nearly 100 percent fermentable. I used 500 grams in a Wheat Beer, and couldnt really taste it.

Ive heard of people bulk priming with honey to get some flavour, never tried it, but heard it works.

Paleman wrote:Honey tends to dry a brew out rather than add flavour. Due to being nearly 100 percent fermentable. I used 500 grams in a Wheat Beer, and couldnt really taste it.

Ive heard of people bulk priming with honey to get some flavour, never tried it, but heard it works.

I suppose it depends on how long you leave it and/or what yeast you use. I chucked in 500g into a Coopers Can. Blonde (using kit yeast) and it was very apparent. The brew is about 4 months old and is still strong tasting. I also bulk primed with dex and honey for an extra kick.