Bulk Priming

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Post by Shamus »

Done two brews with bulk priming so far. 220g for about 22l as per the HBS advice :shock: . Lets just say that they are a little on the active side! I'm making the ultimate sacrifice and drinking them though. Judging from the previous posts I should be goung for about 160-180g for a lager or pils?
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Post by Dogger Dan »

Yeh,

That sounds about right, I used 200 g but then I like them fizzy.

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Dogger Dan wrote: I like them fizzy.
where is he ?



( might be on hols with UC1, they're both quiet of late ).

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excuse me... your karma just ran over my dogma.

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Post by JaCk_SpArRoW »

kurtz wrote:A very helpfull device is a 10ml disposable syringe from the local chemist at about 30cents !
When I used to bulk prime (an excellent idea) I found that I would some times intoduce oxygen during the transfer process which led short term to diacetyl problems and long term, had I kept the beer, would have led to oxidation problems (darkening, cardboard, sherry in the extreme).
So a better idea is to say take, if 6 gms a litre for 20 litres 120gms of sugar dissolved in say 400ml of water, almost fill your 40 x 500ml swing tops and add 10ml of syrup to yop up each.
Easy, accurate and repeatable.

Kurtz
So what would be the calculations for 750-800ml tallies Dr K?
Im assuming it would still be 6gm/L...which would make it either 120gm (20Lt) & 138gm (23lt) but is it still 10ml per bottle?
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Hmmm... Your post is a little confusing Kurtz, you say bulk priming is an excelent idea, but you should individually prime....

How much air interaction can you get away with? if you carefully rack with a hose to the bottom of the carbody you are bulk priming in will that work?
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Post by tyrone »

That seems to be the going advice among those that do this a lot :D
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Post by Dogger Dan »

MHD

That will work fine. I haven't had many issues with oxidation, like none actually. However, I am aware that it exsists and am very wary when transfering finished brew.

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cool.... my plan was to rack back to my primary onto a dextrose+water (thick) solution
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ps: some one here posted a link to a site that showed priming rates (in g/l) for various levels of carbonation... has anyone got that link?
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Post by Ed »

MHD, don't know if this one is what you're after, but a guide nontheless.
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Thats the one!
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Post by Stangas »

Bugger.. i just read the "dont put it in the fridge" post today

Will the temp difference create a major drama? Cause its been in the fridge this whole time. about 3 weeks now

Will find out soon enough.. if it aint carbonated.. then i got the CO2 as back-up.
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Ed wrote:MHD, don't know if this one is what you're after, but a guide nontheless.
Cheers, Ed
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I had a look at that table Ed & the dextrose amounts seem to differ quite significantly...is there a reason for this?
What is the genreal rule to bulk priming...sorry, I havent done this before & wanted to make sure I wasnt making bombs!
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Captain,

As a general rule aim for 180-200 g of dex for 23 L of beer.

North American Beers tend to be highly carbonated while stouts are low. That is why you use the verying quantities of dextrose.

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Dogger Dan wrote:Captain,

As a general rule aim for 180-200 g of dex for 23 L of beer.

North American Beers tend to be highly carbonated while stouts are low. That is why you use the verying quantities of dextrose.

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I am not sure of that, I have been drinking beer for a while now and I have never been accused of being small :wink: :lol:

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Dogger Dan wrote:I am not sure of that, I have been drinking beer for a while now and I have never been accused of being small :wink: :lol:

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Post by Stangas »

well.. me beer that i put sugar into the keg to carbonate the beer that i then put in the fridge for 3 weeks was tasted today..

shite.. it was flat as, and the beer tasted like a mead.. now the obvious stuff up was the fact that i put the beer, in the keg with the sugar syrup and then into the fridge instead of at room temp.

Therefore the beer didnt produce any CO2 and just sugared the beer

Wont be doing that again..
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Post by Aussie Claret »

Stangas,
All is not lost simply leave it at room temp. to carbonate she'll be right mate in a few weeks.
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Post by Stangas »

Cheers AC... i have done this.. just uses an extra keg for another 3 weeks or so..

i dont think i will bother with priming from now on...
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