As close to Tooheys as possible please

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 3:39 pm

Now guys, before you all spit chips at me....it is for my Father In Law who does not like my "Hoppy" Beer, and prefers shite.

Has anyone made, accidently or not, a Tooheys Draught clone, or a tasteless, hopless, aromaless amber liquid....same thing.

This one is purely for him, and he reckons it will be a test of how far Home Brewing has come. I told him that this is a step backward

.

I have already bought the Pride of Ringwood hops in anticipation

Cheers

Boonie.

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 3:49 pm

As a first guess try a tooheys draught kit with a bag of Ultrabrew.

Cheers,
Greg

DJ · Post by DJ » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 3:59 pm

gregb wrote:As a first guess try a tooheys draught kit with a bag of Ultrabrew.

Cheers,
Greg

a pair of dirty socks and 100ml of cats piss..

The Proud Anselmo · Thursday Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

I'd say malt + coopers canadian blonde.
I made a canadian blonde with a kilo of BE2 and it tasted like watered down beer. Seriously low on the flavour, but malt should make it drinkable.... I think.

ACTbrewer · Post by **ACTbrewer** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 7:39 pm

I keep coming back to Beermaker's Bitter. It is the clearest and most neutral HB ever. I give it to the VB swilling crowd.

Just make with a kilo of dex.

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 7:43 pm

Beermakers draught with 1kg of malt

Beau · Post by **Beau** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 9:20 pm

I agree with Lethal. My Beermakers Draught came out like a good version of Tooheys Draught and it was pretty much just k&k.

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 9:46 pm

Beau wrote:I agree with Lethal. My Beermakers Draught came out like a good version of Tooheys Draught and it was pretty much just k&k.

Anyone use Pride of ringwood? I was thinking of boiling 20 g's than another 20 g's added at 20-30 minutes....one for bitter one for aroma

Many threads have mentioned this in local Commercial beers.

Cheers again

Boonie

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 10:10 pm

I personally wouldnt use them in a draught but each to their own i guess

shane_vor · Post by **shane_vor** » Thursday Oct 12, 2006 11:39 pm

I've found POR to be VERY bitter when boiled. I don't have the notes to support it though, last time I tried it the brew was VERY bitter and, well, a bit yuck really.

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Friday Oct 13, 2006 10:19 am

So you want to do an all-extract brew then by the sound of it.

Um, POR can be a good hop. You just have to use it right. As a flavour/aroma hop it's actually reminiscent of Cascade. You're right though, it has 12% AA and is therefore VERY better when used as a bittering hop.

My blog has a recipe for a Coopers Sparkling clone that uses POR. You could use that as a basis. I recommend doing some calculations using an IBU calculator like this one. Most draughts would be around the 22 mark I think.

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Friday Oct 13, 2006 9:23 pm

rwh wrote:So you want to do an all-extract brew then by the sound of it.

Um, POR can be a good hop. You just have to use it right. As a flavour/aroma hop it's actually reminiscent of Cascade. You're right though, it has 12% AA and is therefore VERY better when used as a bittering hop.

My blog has a recipe for a Coopers Sparkling clone that uses POR. You could use that as a basis. I recommend doing some calculations using an IBU calculator like this one. Most draughts would be around the 22 mark I think.

Yeah, I do not have the equipment at the moment for grain.....working on it.

The Sparkling Ales I have made (recipe from the can) have been extremely sweet and have lacked the bitterness of the original. Maybe it is the POR that is lacking. CSA is very bitter on occasions....love it

That recipe looks pretty good for CSA and I hope you dont mind that I have saved that one for ron (Later Ron)

May have to skip the POR hop for the "Tooheys Draught" batch as I do not think that they could handle the bitterness.......pack of wooses

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Monday Oct 16, 2006 10:38 am

Well, if they can't handle the bitterness, just reduce the quantity that you use. I mean 20g of 6%AA hops is equivalent to 10g 12%AA when used for bittering. Just use that IBU calculator and aim for about 20-25 IBU.

Oh, and no probs for the recipe, I got it from someone else, it's all just sharing

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Wednesday Oct 18, 2006 9:18 pm

Well I have bitten the bullet and done the "Tooheys New" batch for the inlaw.

I have left out the Pride of ringwood and will use later in a Coopers Sparkling for that Bitter taste.

Anyway, this is what I put down just using K&K.

Beermakers Draught
Morgans Extra Pale 1.5kg Liquid Malt
Safale s23 Lager yeast.
SG 1042

Will try and keep as cool as possible over the next week.

damonpeyo · Post by **damonpeyo** » Wednesday Oct 18, 2006 11:09 pm

shane_vor wrote:I've found POR to be VERY bitter when boiled. I don't have the notes to support it though, last time I tried it the brew was VERY bitter and, well, a bit yuck really.

I argee... That was when I made first stout with POR, first they were awfully bitter, and didn't even bother to taste them for nearly 2 months now until last week, and I was very surprised to see how they have improved so rapidly that harsh after taste from the POR's bitterness has disappeared, and it's got very interesting head, almost like a whisked up egg whites type of foamy head, and stays there for ages!

Boonie - maybe buy these generic brands kits? Make for your in laws? since some in laws can be a pain in the arse and you don't want to spent too much, and these cheapie kits might fit the bill for them? LOL!

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006 6:43 am

damonpeyo wrote:
shane_vor wrote:I've found POR to be VERY bitter when boiled. I don't have the notes to support it though, last time I tried it the brew was VERY bitter and, well, a bit yuck really.
I argee... That was when I made first stout with POR, first they were awfully bitter, and didn't even bother to taste them for nearly 2 months now until last week, and I was very surprised to see how they have improved so rapidly that harsh after taste from the POR's bitterness has disappeared, and it's got very interesting head, almost like a whisked up egg whites type of foamy head, and stays there for ages!

Boonie - maybe buy these generic brands kits? Make for your in laws? since some in laws can be a pain in the arse and you don't want to spent too much, and these cheapie kits might fit the bill for them? LOL!

Yeah, I will have to be careful how much POR I put in my CSA

The inlaws actually liked a Coles brand one I did which I thought was bland.......maybe I am going to too much trouble and next time give them generic with sugar

rwh · Post by **rwh** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006 11:42 am

Boonie wrote:The inlaws actually liked a Coles brand one I did which I thought was bland.......maybe I am going to too much trouble and next time give them generic with sugar

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006 12:53 pm

Boonie, if this is for your father in law, it's time to remarry.

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006 12:55 pm

Chris wrote:Boonie, if this is for your father in law, it's time to remarry.

It is, but my wife is too good to me for that.......In my condition I'd struggle to find another

lethaldog · Post by **lethaldog** » Thursday Oct 19, 2006 3:42 pm

Boonie wrote:
Chris wrote:Boonie, if this is for your father in law, it's time to remarry.

It is, but my wife is too good to me for that.......In my condition I'd struggle to find another