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Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Tuesday Jul 01, 2008 11:15 am
by homebrewer79
Has anyone got an extract recipie for this little ripper of a beer. I bought some from Dan's the other day, along with some leffe Blonde, fullers ESB and a Ruddles country having in mind trying to make a clone of the one i thought was best. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Tuesday Jul 01, 2008 11:29 am
by drsmurto
HB79

Kegged this on Saturday night. Its an AG recipe but i converted it via beersmith to extract for you.

25L, OG 1.062, IBU 35, EBC 41

5.10 kg Pale Liquid Extract (15.8 EBC) Extract 91.86 %
0.33 kg Crystal, Medium (Bairds) (170.0 EBC) Grain 5.92 %
0.08 kg Black Malt (Bairds) (1300.2 EBC) Grain 1.48 %
0.04 kg Chocolate Malt (Bairds) (750.6 EBC) Grain 0.74 %
25.00 gm Newport [11.00 %] (60 min) Hops 25.8 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [4.40 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
20.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.70 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
20.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.70 %] (20 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [4.40 %] (20 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Ringwood Ale (Wyeast Labs #1187) [Starter 2000 ml] Yeast-Ale

You could sub fuggles or EKG for the Newport, i have some around for bittering.

Cheers
DrSmurto

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Tuesday Jul 01, 2008 12:13 pm
by homebrewer79
Awesome, cheers for that mate. I can only do a 5 litre boil so will fiddle with it on beersmith when I get home. I was also waiting for a reason to use those newport hops, i only bought them cause they were on special and thought I'd give em' a go eventually. I've got the goldings but I'm not sure what type they are :oops: (I haven't used them for a couple of months and can't remember), got them from G&G and they don't state what Golding variety it is on the label, could be EK?. Think I'll just buy some more from Craftbrewer. Do you think the Whirlfloc tab is essential?

Cheers

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Tuesday Jul 01, 2008 12:23 pm
by drsmurto
Whirlfloc isnt crucial, the styrians and the ringwood yeast are.

EKG is completely different to stryians - chalk and cheese. Get some new season styrians and fuggles from Ross. And the ringwood yeast from G&G. You wont regret it.

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Wednesday Jul 02, 2008 2:22 pm
by homebrewer79
Just thought I'd put this up for those that don't have Beersmith and can't get the bitterness and EBC in the same range as Drsmurto's work of beauty. The liquid extract is added at flameout and hops are boiled in both LDME and Sweet liquor to a 5 litre boil. Can't wait to put this down :D

Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.60 kg Light Dry Extract (15.8 EBC) Dry Extract 10.81 %
4.50 kg Pale Liquid Extract (15.8 EBC) Extract 81.08 %
0.33 kg Crystal Malt Medium (170.0 EBC) Grain 5.95 %
0.08 kg Black Malt (Bairds) (1300.0 EBC) Grain 1.44 %
0.04 kg Chocolate malt (Bairds) (750.6 EBC) Grain 0.72 %
25.00 gm Newport [11.00 %] (60 min) Hops 25.9 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [4.40 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
20.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.70 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
20.00 gm Styrian Goldings [4.70 %] (20 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [4.40 %] (20 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Ringwood Ale (Wyeast Labs #1187) Yeast-Ale

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Jul 03, 2008 4:25 am
by buzzkill
I do love this beer
6oz British 55l crystal malt
1oz. British chocolate malt
.5 oz.British black patent malt
6.5lb.extra light dry extract(i use 8lb.liquid extract)
4oz.malto dextrin(i skip this)
1oz.prodress bittering hop
2/3oz.styrian goldings
1/4oz.styrian goldings..
this is the clone I got from one of my books.
I think I will try yours on next batch..

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Jul 03, 2008 7:22 pm
by tazman67
Old post..might help the K&K ers.....

Hanging Rock Hobgoblin

Postby Guest on Monday Dec 05, 2005 9:53 am
I visited England in 2000 and became fond of an ale called Hobgoblin.
This recipe won the inaugural Lancefield Show's Homebrew Competition, judged by Paul Holgate of Holgate Breweryin Woodend.

1xHomebrew Draught
1kg light malt
1/2cup roasted barley
25gm Cascade hops (boiling, about 30 minutes)
12gm Willamette hops (flavour, about 5 minutes)
1xCoopers Sparkling Ale bottle yeast

Tasting notes....beaudiful :D

Guest



Postby Mackers on Monday Dec 05, 2005 10:02 am

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Jul 04, 2008 11:41 am
by drsmurto
Cascade in a ye olde english ale :o

Not on my watch gov.

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Jul 04, 2008 10:11 pm
by tazman67
Not my cup of tea either Guv, Styrian Goldings would be my choice for flavour and aroma

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Monday Jul 07, 2008 11:14 am
by drsmurto
My keg of Hobgoblin went along with me to the SA xmas in July case swap on Saturday almost full. It left almost empty! Was a hit and i will be brewing it again asap.

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Jul 10, 2008 12:14 pm
by James L
what the hell is Aroma Hop-Steep?

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Jul 10, 2008 12:43 pm
by rwh
It's the same thing as "flameout". You add the hops at the end of the boil once you've turned off the heat and let them "steep" for a while before chilling the wort.

Another option is to "steep" them after the primary fermentation is complete; this is usually called "dry hopping".

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Jul 10, 2008 1:57 pm
by James L
i thought as much... i knew about the dry hopping, i wasnt sure about the aroma steep for 20 minutes bit....

cheers

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Jul 25, 2008 3:44 pm
by homebrewer79
Hey guys, just got all the goodies to make this brew, just have one question. Craftbrewer recomends "Thorough diacetyl rest after fermentation is complete" for the Ringwood Ale, I'll be brewing at 16-18 deg so what temp would you suggest resting at and for how long? I generally leave brews for two more days after fermentation at 2-3 deg higher, would this do? Or do I need to give it more time/higher temp rest?

Cheers

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Jul 25, 2008 3:54 pm
by drsmurto
When i have used the ringwood yeast i ferment to around 20C and leave it in primary for at least 2 weeks. You will find the yeast cleans up after itself in these conditions. Just remember to keep an eye on it for the first 2-3 days as its a lazy bugger and may drop out of suspension before it has finished fermenting. I normally rouse it twice a day for the first 2-3 days by gently tipping the fermenter onto its edge and then moving it around in a circle.

I recommend brewing with this yeast at the higher end of the scale to get all the esters that this beast is capable of producing to get yourself a nice fruity english ale!

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Jul 25, 2008 7:14 pm
by homebrewer79
Cheers Doc, your help is greatly appreciated. I wanna get this brew spot on. I'll have to send you a sample when It's ready

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Monday Jul 28, 2008 9:43 am
by drsmurto
homebrewer79 wrote:Cheers Doc, your help is greatly appreciated. I wanna get this brew spot on. I'll have to send you a sample when It's ready
Hell yes!

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Thursday Sep 25, 2008 2:40 pm
by homebrewer79
After a month in the bottle I cracked one last night (insert drool icon). Nice and fruity on the nose, very smooth and pretty much a perfect clone IMHO. I know who wont be buying any bottles of Hobgoblin for a while :D . And as promised Doc, your sample is ready for shipping. I think I have you address in my PM folder still, unless it's changed?

Re: Looking for a Hobgoblin Clone

Posted: Friday Sep 26, 2008 8:06 am
by drsmurto
PM sent!

Entered this into SABSOSA as an old ale

Scored 82/100 with both judges saying it was a top beer but just slightly too hoppy for style.

It was a tad young for an old ale so will be keeping the few bottles i have remaining and entering it again next year!