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3 days
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 7:42 pm
by Zuma
My local HBS owner reckons three days in the primary only for all the beers I brew. This guy is very well respected around town and Im not doubting him at all but im wondering whether anyone else agrees or disagrees?
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 7:53 pm
by gregb
If that is three days primary, rack to a secondary, complete ferment I don't see a problem.
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 9:24 pm
by shane_vor
I have a pilsner running inside at about 22 degress (way too hot I reckon) and has been for four days, airlock is very active and you can actually see the hop bits moving around inside through the glass...3 days? Tell him he's dreaming!
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 9:49 pm
by beernut
I've had some very vigorous wheat beers go right off & just stop dead after 3 days (@24c), but never had a lager come in less than 10 days(@8c). All tasted great.
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 9:53 pm
by KEG
you'll only see a brew complete in 3 days if you're making something like a 2%abv brew or brewing at waaaay too high temperatures.
although if, as suggested above, he was talking about racking after 3 days, then maybe.. that *may* have the benefit of less chance of oxidisation because the brew is still in an earlier stage of fermentation, and less chance of infection because the yeast is still holding the reins in the brew, but i'd think you'd lose the clearing benefit of racking, because you'd still build a bit of a trub up in the secondary fermenter.
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 9:59 pm
by beernut
I rack everything.Talking about primary ferment only.
Posted: Monday Jan 22, 2007 10:08 pm
by afromaiko
3 days, wow. All my brews seem to take about 10 days to finish in primary as a minimum, and thats before I rack to secondary for a couple of weeks.
But I guess if you were just doing it for cheap beer and didn't care about the quality too much you could just grab some kits from Bilo and brew it on your heat mat in the summer heat to get it finished quick smart.
I have an ale going now that is still bubbling regularly and it's on its 8th day now. It's been fermenting in the low 20s in a cool place in our house because the brew fridge is tied up with a lager that is now on its 15th day and just been racked for lagering.
Re: 3 days
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 11:22 am
by Boonie
Zuma wrote:My local HBS owner reckons three days in the primary only for all the beers I brew. This guy is very well respected around town and Im not doubting him at all but im wondering whether anyone else agrees or disagrees?
3 Days, I do not agree.
As mentioned must be cooking at 24+ with 250g Dex and 20g Yeast.
Rack at 3 days and left to finish....yes.
Cheers
Boonie
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 1:11 pm
by Chris
You can sometimes get some bad advice from you're HB shops (sometimes very good as well).
Mark this one down as the former.
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 1:19 pm
by KEG
i recently got advised that all hops, pellets etc, should be boiled for 5 minutes in a cup of water then added to the wort. 5 minutes. not more, not less.
right.
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 1:22 pm
by Chris
You're in Melbourne, go to G&G. They will give you good advice.
5 mins of hops? Hardly worth the effort.
We had a good post on the worst advice ever given. Sounds like there are a few new contenders.
Re: 3 days
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 4:21 pm
by velophile
Zuma wrote:My local HBS owner reckons three days in the primary only for all the beers I brew. This guy is very well respected around town and Im not doubting him at all but im wondering whether anyone else agrees or disagrees?
Maybe for the Coopers kit racing yeast at a warm temp. I've had some slow down after 48hrs of volcano action.
IMO a way to make tres' ordinary beer quickly. Now I have a temp controlled brew fridge & use better yeasts.
Beer is food. Slow food is good food.

Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 5:23 pm
by KEG
thanks for the tip Chris
pretty sure there's no G&G on this side of melbourne, but don't worry, i didn't take the advice from that HBS to heart. I've found much more useful info right here on this forum

Re: 3 days
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 6:39 pm
by gregb
velophile wrote: .. Coopers kit racing yeast ...
Should put a GT stripe on the sachet, eh? Love your work velophile.
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Tuesday Jan 23, 2007 9:57 pm
by beernut
It all depends on the size of your wort compared to the size of your yeast starter.and the temp fermented at.If you add 600ml yeast slurry (Ale) from yesterdays batch to a 1.5lt wort starter @ 24c and vigorously aerate, you will achieve high krausen within hours and it will feed itself out within 18hr.
The better the start- the better the beer.
Cheers Glenn
Posted: Wednesday Jan 24, 2007 10:50 pm
by Zuma
Allow myself to retort.
3 days in primary 2 weeks in secondary.
Ive not followed his words just the same.
Posted: Thursday Jan 25, 2007 1:15 pm
by Chris
I still think the best for consistantly good beer is 7, 7, 14.
Posted: Thursday Jan 25, 2007 1:27 pm
by Pale_Ale
I've found if you're not CCing then 7 - 14 is a good way to go. If CC then 7-7-14 seems to work well.
Posted: Thursday Jan 25, 2007 1:33 pm
by Chris
Yeah, that's a good point. I tend to go 14-21 days when not ccing. Partly due to time constraints.
Posted: Thursday Jan 25, 2007 8:44 pm
by Tipsy
Zuma wrote:Allow myself to retort.
3 days in primary 2 weeks in secondary.
Ive not followed his words just the same.
I've racked after 3 days before, plenty of times.