Coopers' Sparkling Ale

[malty]

I have some stubbies of this that I'm wanting to use to make a yeast starter, to brew my own Sparkling. 2 questions for yall:

1. If I use the Coopers Sparkling Kit, light malt and the starter, will I get a result very similar to the original? Or do I need to do something different?

2. Is the Pale Ale yeast the same as the Sparkling yeast? I want to make Coopers Pale Ales too. Do I need to buy some Pale Ale stubbies to make a separate starter, or is it the same yeast as the Sparkling?

Malty

[DJ]

As far as your second question, my understanding is that all Coopers Ales use the same yeast.

[morgs]

I havent yet tried using cultured stubby yeasts but am i right in saying that bottle conditioned beers for sale in shops ie coopers, creatures etc have a different yeast added at bottling primarily for bottle conditioning, carbonation. So is this yeast really suitable for trying to clone the beer. Or is is the same yeast added again. Correct me if im wrong though.

From the little creature pale website.
'Our Little Creatures ale yeast has the hardest job of all (not). Working its way through two batches of pale ale wort at 5000 litres per batch takes some 6 days, after which we chill and cold stabilise for a week before filtering off the yeast. The pale ale then receives a secondary conditioning yeast, some priming sugar to get it going, and it's either into the bottle and off to our temperature controlled conditioning store, or into one of our six monumental serving vessels behind the bar. Either way, the conditioning yeast performs a most wonderful service. It cleans up the beer taking away harsh green flavours allowing those complex hop, malt and fermentation aromas to make their mark. It also increases the CO2 to where we want it, and finally it keeps the beer fresh for longer by soaking up any oxidants in the beer. I guess yeast is just Mother Natures' little gift to us to ensure you get better beer. '

[da_damage_done]

you r gonna have to hop it up

it's way too sweet

try some POR - it's what coopers use

cheers

[malty]

you r gonna have to hop it up

it's way too sweet

What is way too sweet?

[malty]

I havent yet tried using cultured stubby yeasts but am i right in saying that bottle conditioned beers for sale in shops ie coopers, creatures etc have a different yeast added at bottling primarily for bottle conditioning, carbonation. So is this yeast really suitable for trying to clone the beer. Or is is the same yeast added again.

It's a method recommended in books etc to culture coopers sparkling yeast from the stubbie, so I think it must work. People seem to think it's a good way to get the sparkling taste...

I'm just wondering if the pale ale yeast is the same one.

[rwh]

As far as your second question, my understanding is that all Coopers Ales use the same yeast.

Yes, they do all use the same yeast. And they don't use a different strain for bottle conditioning. The Pale Ale is probably the best one to use to start a culture because the lower alcohol content will have killed less of the yeast.

A lot of European beers use a different strain for bottle conditioning because a large part of their flavour profile is contributed by the yeast, and as a result they guard their yeast strain as a proprietary part of their particular brew. Hoegaarden springs to mind as an example.

[Boonie]

you r gonna have to hop it up

it's way too sweet

What is way too sweet?

I think damage in talking about the standard recipe on tin with cultivated yeast.

I too have done this one. Very malty and sweet and lacking bitterness like the original.

Boonie