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Priming Sugar

Posted: Tuesday Jan 11, 2005 6:11 pm
by Robjess
Hey guys.. Im a newbie and I have a question.

What sort of sugar should I use to prime my bottles with? Someone told me to use caster sugar but then I read somewhere that you shouldnt use that you should just use normal refined white sugar..??

Posted: Tuesday Jan 11, 2005 10:11 pm
by Dogger Dan
Dissolve 20 grams of dextrose into some boiled water and then add it to the 23 litres of beer to be bottled. (transfer it odd the yeast bed first) Give it a stir careful not to introduce to much atmosphere and then bottle. every bottle will have the same CO2 levels

Dogger

Posted: Wednesday Jan 12, 2005 11:31 am
by Damo
Dogger Dan had a typo error, :oops: i am sure he will agree that it is 200 grams of dextrose.
Castor sugar and white sugar is the same thing. Castor sugar is just milled to a smaller grain size.
White sugar is fine to use to prime your bottles.

Posted: Wednesday Jan 12, 2005 4:31 pm
by guest
when i first started i just used normal raw sugar.. nothing wrong wtih it.. now i use dextrose.. dunno if i find the diff in taste.. but i feel that dextrose gives a better head.. dunno if i am right or not...but either raw or dextrose or caster sugar will do i suppose

Posted: Wednesday Jan 12, 2005 8:40 pm
by Oliver
Hi Robjess,

The technique Dogger refers to is called bulk priming. Basically you carefully transfer your beer to another fermenter just before bottling (to leave behind all the crap at the bottom) then gently stir in the sugar mixture and bottle.

An important thing in all this is to be careful not to splash things around too much, as getting oxygen in your beer at this stage is bad.

Bulk priming saves time, as you don't have to prime each bottle with a teaspoon of sugar. The downside is that you need a second fermenter (what am I talking about ... there's no downside in having a second fermenter!).

I really should give bulk priming a go some time.

Oliver

(And yes, Dogger did mean 200g)

Posted: Wednesday Jan 12, 2005 10:15 pm
by Dogger Dan
Sorry guys I fat fingered that last naught and was out by an order of magnitude. shift the decimal one to the right. :oops:

the correct version is 200 grams as you have noticed

Dogger

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 2:28 pm
by guigui
and so about the type of sugar
what do you recon for the second fermentation?
white, raw, glucose?

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 3:01 pm
by sluggerdog
Guigui - Dextrose

I have found personally that 200 grams is too much for a 23 litre batch, I use about 160 - 180 max (but that is personal preferance)

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 5:17 pm
by Robjess
So should the amount to use in each bottle or in your batch be the same whether it is white sugar, caster suger or dextrose? Or do you adjust the quantities depending what you are using?

Also.. how much should I use for a Grolsch sized bottle? They are not the normal standard size.,. I think they are 473ml or something. I cant do a bulk prime due to only having 1 fermenter available.

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 5:43 pm
by guigui
last time i se white sugar, but my beer was not fizzy enough.
do you think with glucose, my beer will be more fizzy?
i use priming cup so it is not a question of weight but volume.
do you think, the same amount in volume of white sugar is not as good as glucose for fizzying a beer?

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 9:10 pm
by Oliver
Robjess,

Since the Grolsch bottles are about two-thirds the size of a 750ml bottle, try putting about two-thirds as much sugar in each bottle :lol:

As I've said before, I tend to underprime my beers (based on the "one teaspoon of sugar per stubby" rule). I use about one teaspoon per longneck.

Maybe that might do the trick for you in a Grolsch bottle?

And to guigui, if your beer was not carbonated enough last time, just add a *little* more sugar to the next batch. (If last time you used a level measure, maybe this time try a rounded measure.)

Cheers,

Oliver

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 10:29 pm
by Robinelle
Hi

I use Grolsch bottles and add 5mls of caster sugar, this gives what I would call high carbonation, stopper gives a definant pop and when poured into glass, bubbles and head last for extended period. A bit champagne like really, but I like it.
I worked it out based on some books/guides say 7mls for a 750 long neck and a Grolsch is aprox 2/3rds of that so 5 is 2/3rds of 7, well almost.

Posted: Thursday Jan 13, 2005 10:49 pm
by GTI86
Hi
I use a wide varity of bottles 375 330 500 750 800 1.25 2.5 usually
use carbonation drops but plan to bulk prime soon ie when I run out of
drops they seem to work fine but cant compare never primed with sugar
before bulk priming sounds a lot cheaper and easyer

Posted: Friday Jan 14, 2005 2:11 pm
by Robjess
Thanks Rob (and everyone else).

A mate at work gave me a 1.5 ltr Grolsh bottle today - what a beastie that is!

Posted: Friday Jan 14, 2005 10:14 pm
by Dogger Dan
Yeh,

I have two 1.5 s and I love them. Wish I could get my mitts on about 40 more

Dogger

Posted: Saturday Jan 15, 2005 10:48 am
by Robinelle
Guys, I bought three 1.5Ltr Grolsch for myself as Xmas presents. Wife was really impressed, but made it easy for her instead of finding present.

Each one came with 2 X 250ml Glosh beer glass's, which I dutifully keep cold in the fridge ready for action.
What a blast, two beuatifull glasses of HB from each of those lovely green babies.

Posted: Saturday Jan 15, 2005 1:17 pm
by Robjess
Where did you pick them up at? Im in the market for some more also..

On a seperate topic, I just bottled my first Ginger beer, I think it was a morgans.. anyway it was just bubbly as a bottled it.. is that normal for ginger beer?

Posted: Saturday Jan 15, 2005 1:29 pm
by Robinelle
I found them in David Jones bottle shop :oops: . Not usually a place I shop, but when I saw them it was love at first site :D .

Posted: Saturday Jan 15, 2005 5:05 pm
by Andy
Picked up one of these bad boys recently.

http://www.grolsch.co.uk/GrolschShop/de ... &prodid=12

Perfect for a nice cold glass of beer, maybe even a grolsch!

Posted: Saturday Jan 15, 2005 7:16 pm
by grabman
Not a bad looking gadget Andy! You'll have to let us know how it goes. It looks like with the glasses hanging down they may get in way of shelf below!

Grabman