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can see the attraction to wheat beers now.
it's only had 10 days in the bottle, ( 18 primary ) and it's a bewdiful drop.
was Morgan's Kit, 1kg wheat malt, 250 maltodex, Coriander seeds and Hallertau pellets.
Head retention is fab, really crisp bite to it.

Although it's obvious that it can be drank young, does this mean that the wheats don't stand the test of time. ?

Will definitely do this 1 again.

cheers

Rumour has it

Dogger

Thats what I've been told and have noticed with the redback clone I'm drinking at the moment - 12 weeks old - that the hop flavours have really dissapated but never the less still a great drop.

Oh, that sounds good - I am having my first taste test of a Morgan's wheat beer this evening, so hopefully it turns out as well as yours.

Mine with a little different recipe:
Morgans wheat kit
Morgans master Blend beer enhancer
500g Dextrose
12g Hallertau hops.

I can't wait.

I never knew that about flavours dissipating, shall see how it goes.

> does this mean that the wheats don't stand the test of time

There is often wheat (malted or otherwise) in certain Belgian or German beers. These not only seem to stand the test of time fairly well, but, in some cases, are even recommended to be "cellared" for some time.

Maybe one of these days I will organise a tasting (even if it is only for me!), as I have wheat beers of various styles ranging back over several years.

I Love the Wheat beers. Never noticed a short shelf life though, as they never last that long. Just about to brew a Dark wheat beer, (just adding Carawheat to a wheat kit). Getting thirsty at work just thinking about it.

Drinkers of the Wheat,

one thing that improved the flavour of my wheat beers was the substituting of the kit's yeast with a more WB suitable kind such as K97.
This improved the results 10 fold for me so keep it in mind. Don't just go with my advice on the K97 too as there are a few WB yeasts to try out.

Good luck

Wheatman

I also generally discard the kit yeast in favour of something else: in my case, it is usually a yeast cultivated from a Belgian Wit or German Weiss Bier. As before noted, this way I get to play an active and enjoyable role in the yeast capturing process

Wheatman wrote:Drinkers of the Wheat,

one thing that improved the flavour of my wheat beers was the substituting of the kit's yeast with a more WB suitable kind such as K97.
This improved the results 10 fold for me so keep it in mind. Don't just go with my advice on the K97 too as there are a few WB yeasts to try out.

Good luck

Wheatman

too true wb,
i used K-97 with the above brew.

drinking one now as i keybash, i seriously cannot believe the quality of this beer after 10 days in the bottle.
Even mrs glass approves. ....


On another note, I primed 3 of the above with 10gm malt and 1 with 8gm Honey, tried one of the 'malts' and it's flatter than a shit carter's hat, the honey primed bottle 'blew' it's head off yesterday. ( a rare occurence for me ).

Any of you guys primed with malt before, if so please give results.......
this beer is too good to waste
how about results of honey primed beer ???

full of wheaty goodness.....

I'm planning on making a wheat beer around the start of november, specifically aiming for a Belgian Wit. I had a look at the recipe on G&G and im considering trying the minimash since I've done one before (a partial mash and a minimash are the same thing right?) except using a wheat beer kit as a base instead of extract. Not sure what this means for bitterness, but i have a finishing hop bag of Tetnanger i was always going to use, and about 20-25g of Hersbrucker pellets sitting in my fridge if needed.

My only problem is finding 'Torrefied Wheat' since im not really sure what it is, figuring out if and how much hops i need to add for bitterness and scrounging up enough spare cash to buy a 4 pack of Hoegaarden to cultivate some yeast from.

According to Home Brewing: The CAMRA Guide by Graham Wheeler, torrefied grains are "grains that have been 'popped' in a similar manner to pop-corn. The high temperature involved in popping explodes the endosperm of the grain and gelatinises the starch(,) rendering it open to attack by the enzymes contained in the malted barley. Torrefied grains can be used in our mash tun directly(,) without any form of pre-treatment."

Grain and Grape sells it: http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/kits.htm

Cheers,

Oliver

yardglass wrote:
On another note, I primed 3 of the above with 10gm malt and 1 with 8gm Honey, tried one of the 'malts' and it's flatter than a shit carter's hat, the honey primed bottle 'blew' it's head off yesterday. ( a rare occurence for me ).

Any of you guys primed with malt before, if so please give results.......
this beer is too good to waste
how about results of honey primed beer ???

full of wheaty goodness.....

re: priming...
anyone...............

any.............................

one.............................................?

Oliver wrote:According to Home Brewing: The CAMRA Guide by Graham Wheeler, torrefied grains are "grains that have been 'popped' in a similar manner to pop-corn. The high temperature involved in popping explodes the endosperm of the grain and gelatinises the starch(,) rendering it open to attack by the enzymes contained in the malted barley. Torrefied grains can be used in our mash tun directly(,) without any form of pre-treatment."

Grain and Grape sells it: http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/kits.htm

Cheers,

Oliver

Hmmm I was looking at their German grains, didnt think the wheat would be in the English ones. Now to discover postage and handling costs, and figure out how to calculate IBU's and how much hops i need.

Torrified wheat is puffed wheat, as in the breakfast cereal

No from me on the priming except you will need to add more volume than what you do with regular dex. I keg

Dogger

Dogger Dan wrote:Torrified wheat is puffed wheat, as in the breakfast cereal

I always knew there was a reason I shouldn't eat breakfast. Now I know ... so I can add boil it and add it to the fermenter.

Do you reckon that if you poured milk over the puffed wheat, then added it to the boil you could make a nice milk stout?

Oliver

Oliver,

Stick with me chum and I will get a recipie involving Bran Flakes

Captain Kirk is the stand up guy for Bran now, just in case anyone is curious.

Dogger

Dogger Dan wrote:
No from me on the priming except you will need to add more volume than what you do with regular dex.
Dogger

Thanks DD,
is it possible to re-prime these bottles with dex and re-cap without any adverse effects ? ie: boom.

cheers
yardy

don't know about the repriming but would like doggers keg wheat beer recipie please

I had a thought... this Torrefied Wheat i mentioned is unmalted, isn it? Does that mean steeping 1kg of it is not going to add an extra residual sweetness to the brew, hence i dont need to add any bittering hops to balance it?

Would be ace if i didnt, save me some calaculations i havent figured out how to do yet.

Yeah,

It doesn't add to the fermentables

As far as repriming goes...............Hmmmmmm..............No I wouldn't be real comfortable doing that myself. Mind you I also bet on the Devils last night to so there you go

Dogger