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Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 6:21 pm
by ryan
Boonie wrote:
Chris wrote:damian,

As for the racking process, you attach the hose to the fermenter tap directly (shove it up inside or over the outside- depending on hose diameter). If this is physically impossible, cut a small piece of your bottling valve off and stick it in the tap, putting the hose over that.
What I do I'd remove the little bottler from the bottom of the pipe and connect a 10mm hose to it, which you can buy at Bunnings. The hose I use is about 3 metres long.

Hard to explain but the bulbous part at the bottom of the "little bottler" just pulls off. Attach the hose to it, the pipe to the fermenter and ensure that the fermenter is above the new "racking" vessel. The residual hose you have left over, make it so that it is in a circle at the bottom of the racking vessel so that it does not bubble everywhere, to reduce oxidisation (IMO).

Pictures I posted a while ago.

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... c&start=20

Cheers

Boonie

PS What's the Rapid Creek like anyone??
But why the lil bottler tube? If and when I rack, I just put the hose sraight onto primary tap and into 2nd fermenter. Why do you need the bottler tube?
sorry, know nothing about Rapid Creek :(

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 6:41 pm
by Boonie
I use it because it fits the 10mm hose perfectly and I know it will not slip out of primary, and the hose will not disconnect either.

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 7:03 pm
by ryan
Are you using the white taps from Bunnings? My rack. hose fits OVER them dead tight after softening the end in hot water.

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 11:13 pm
by KEG
my rack hoses fit inside the tap perfectly.. easiest thing to do is go down to bunnings, pick up one of the taps, and take it to the tubing section, and find the hose that fits.

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 11:17 pm
by Kevnlis
KEG wrote:my rack hoses fit inside the tap perfectly.. easiest thing to do is go down to bunnings, pick up one of the taps, and take it to the tubing section, and find the hose that fits.
I use a tube that fits to the outside of the white bunnings taps as well. I figured the tube that fit to the inside would constrict the flow and I would have to wait longer to rack :P

As long as it doesn't leak it doesn't matter much in the long run.

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 11:26 pm
by KEG
i don't stand there waiting for mine to rack.. i get them going and get another beer :D

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 11:39 pm
by lethaldog
Just make sure you squeeze the hose until it completely fills at the top then the preasure will fill the rest, if you dont you can risk oxidizing :wink:

Posted: Saturday Sep 22, 2007 11:45 pm
by KEG
yeah, i'm always careful to make sure there's no air in the lines.. i also purge my secondaries with CO2 now, since starting to use kegs.

Posted: Sunday Sep 23, 2007 10:19 am
by chris.
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Posted: Sunday Sep 23, 2007 1:43 pm
by TommyH
Boonie wrote:
PS What's the Rapid Creek like anyone??
Only done one Rapid Creek and wasn't that impressed.That was a Pale Ale. I prefer to stick to Coopers or Wal's.

Posted: Sunday Sep 23, 2007 2:37 pm
by warra48
It's a well know fact Boonie is a dead set racking fan, and more power to him. I've only racked two of my brews, one a pilsner for lagering, and a pale ale for cold conditioning.
Personally, I can't see why I would bother again with anything other than a pils or a lager. I just leave them in the fermenter for between 2 to 3 weeks, dry hopping once fermentation has slowed down. Then bottle. Beer comes out clear as you'd want after a few weeks in the bottle.
If you are kegging, I can see some benefit in getting the beer off the trub, and allowing it to settle before kegging.
As I bottle, I don't see the need, but each to their own. If it works for you, it's got to be good for you.

Posted: Sunday Sep 23, 2007 3:11 pm
by Boonie
It's a well know fact Boonie is a dead set racking fan, and more power to him
Too true....... :lol:

I like racking as I can Dry hop and my beer seems to clear faster when off the trub. Some where I used to leave in Primary just did not clear up as much as when racked.
Only done one Rapid Creek and wasn't that impressed.That was a Pale Ale. I prefer to stick to Coopers or Wal's
Thanks, have been considering this one.
In theory a faster flow rate will pull more trub through.
Agree, but it will settle after a week. I hate it when it comes through but I know it will drop in a couple of days anyway. Then when I bottle, it will not be high enough in the "racked" fermenter to go into the bottles.

Cheers

Boonie

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 6:55 am
by Ross
The only real advantage in racking IMHO is to put your beer into a more suitable container for cold conditioning & freeing up your fermenter to brew another beer. I NEVER rack beers & the quality is fine. I entered 14 beers in a recent club comp up here & every one were medal placers.

Cheers Ross

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 10:03 am
by Cortez The Killer
How long do you have then in the primary ross?

Don't you filter as well??

Cheers

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 12:36 pm
by chris.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 1:01 pm
by Boonie
chris. wrote:
Ross wrote:The only real advantage in racking IMHO is to put your beer into a more suitable container for cold conditioning & freeing up your fermenter to brew another beer. I NEVER rack beers & the quality is fine. I entered 14 beers in a recent club comp up here & every one were medal placers.

Cheers Ross
Quick guys stick your fingers in your ears & shout "LALALALALA" before you hear something that might save your time & actually improve your beers.
Racking, the mass debate. :shock:

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 1:02 pm
by warra48
This is the once and for all definitive answer on racking.
If you rack, it works for you.
If you don't rack, it works for you.
End of argument.

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 1:04 pm
by Boonie
Now where's the fun in that :wink:

Maybe there should be a Poll to see how many rack and how many do not

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 1:05 pm
by Kevnlis
Boonie wrote:Now where's the fun in that :wink:

Maybe there should be a Poll to see how many rack and how many do not
But what if you only rack sometimes?

Posted: Wednesday Sep 26, 2007 1:10 pm
by Boonie
Kevnlis wrote:
Boonie wrote:Now where's the fun in that :wink:

Maybe there should be a Poll to see how many rack and how many do not
But what if you only rack sometimes?
Thought of that Kev.....

Maybe 4+ answers like "Only when I do Lagers", Yes I Like it, No I do not think it gives benefits, No I only have 1 Fermenter, I Plan to, Only to Dry Hop, Only to reduce the gunk on the bottom of my bottle, Only to free up my fermenter, not just the yes/no poll

edit....Any you can think of Kev?