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Posted: Tuesday Apr 19, 2005 10:40 am
by Dogger Dan
Leave the coconut out,

It is a large taste and very very very little goes a long way, unless you like the taste of coconut. I would remind you there is no extra sweetness to take the bite away. It will certainly prevail in a stout.

Dogger

Posted: Tuesday Apr 19, 2005 5:57 pm
by beermeister
Noted, DD.

While we are on that topic I wonder if anyone has tried cinnamon or vanilla in a stout? I imagine vanilla could be a bit of a stretch but cinnamon may be interesting.

BM

Posted: Tuesday Apr 19, 2005 7:05 pm
by Antsvb
Got some cinnamon in a basic coopers Dark Ale brewing at the moment as per their instructions on the website. Does anyone know if this turns out any good?

Posted: Tuesday Apr 19, 2005 7:28 pm
by gregb
Did a dark ale with cinnamon last year, was nice, but 'different'. Also had to be carefull what you were eating with it.

The two headed brewer did a stout with vanilla pods and was kind enough to give me a sampler, it was also good - sort of a desert beer.


Greg.

Posted: Tuesday Apr 19, 2005 8:57 pm
by Dogger Dan
Actually,

I bet the vanilla is good.

I have some banana womf I might try some day.

Dogger

Posted: Wednesday Apr 20, 2005 10:38 am
by beermeister
Gregb, do you know how the vanilla pods were added?

BM

Posted: Wednesday Apr 20, 2005 12:16 pm
by gregb
Dont recall, I'll ask him when I catch up next

Greg

Posted: Friday Apr 22, 2005 9:58 am
by gregb
Split the Vanilla bean and steep before adding to the primary.

Greg

Posted: Friday Apr 22, 2005 10:42 am
by beermeister
Ahh, a bit like when the beans are used in food recipes.

Cheers Greg.

BM.

Vegemite Beer.

Posted: Friday Apr 22, 2005 5:14 pm
by grecai
The only problem you might experience is with the other vitamins in vegemite.
Like B1 and others will have an effect on the beer and will react with the yeast.
There isa chance the beer would be sour as other ingredents in vegemite are not sterile and might react with the brew.

Worth a go but.

Posted: Friday Apr 22, 2005 8:05 pm
by Guest
Beermeister,
just for your info the recipe that I used with the vanilla was
Cooper's Stout Kit
500 g Lactose
1 kg Dark Powdered Malt
1 Vanilla Bean and 12 g Hersbreker (what I had at the time) quick boil with sugar additives
Standard Yeast

This was bottled on 01/05/04 and had poor head retention for the first few months. Not sure, but it maybe the oils from the vanilla???I have quite a few left so I need to revisit for an update. Doing this again I'd probably use some black grain and axe the lactose as I thought was a little too sweet and needed something to compliment the vanilla. Still undecided though. One thought was a Coopers Classic Old Dark and Stout two tin brew with the vanilla, yummy!
Bally

Posted: Friday Apr 22, 2005 8:10 pm
by two headed brewer
Guest was me before!
Bally

Posted: Saturday Apr 23, 2005 9:25 am
by the Baron
grecai, if I boil the vegemite in some water for 10 mins would this help at all??

SALT

Posted: Saturday Apr 23, 2005 9:38 pm
by the Baron
Just wondering diggers, about 36 hours till droping this brew in the fermenter, will salt have any adverse effects on yeast, as vegemite is pretty salty and a mate alerted me to the fact that yeast doesn't do anything with salt. Will it affect the yeast, or the taste to much?? Also cannot get that link that grabman posted right at the begining to work, doesn't link me to an article at all, just some crap where I have to sign in or something, is there any wisdom on it?? thanks

Posted: Saturday Apr 23, 2005 11:22 pm
by grabman
Baron,
link not working for me either now, same thing about registering, I think it is free though so might be worth a look.

Posted: Sunday Apr 24, 2005 1:15 am
by Dogger Dan
Baron,

Should be Ok, I would put it in the boil myself, maybe for the last minute or so.

You aren't sticking in the whole jar right, just a taste right.

Sorry to say, that is an aquired taste :oops:

Dogger

Posted: Sunday Apr 24, 2005 10:42 am
by Oliver
The article is from The Sydney Morning Herald. Registration is free.

As Dogger says, you're not putting in the whole jar, so don't worry about the salt factor.

Remember that sometimes you actually add salt to brewing water (particularly when brewing ales) to get the correct profile.

Cheers,

Oliver

Posted: Monday Apr 25, 2005 4:33 pm
by the Baron
It is down,
the recipie: 300gm unrefined sugar, 525gm dextrose, 300gm maltodextrin, 300gm dark dried malt extract, 1 tin coopers stout, about 50gm of vegemite, water to the 18L mark.
I originally put 100gm of vegemite in some boiled water and mixed it, it made black water, this stuff was potent and scarry and salty. Boiled all the sugary stuff in a pot and slowly added vegemite mixture, then I chickened out at half way and only added half the mixture. boiled this for 5 mins and added to the fermenter with the tin, put her in an ice bath and filled her up to the 18L mark, pitched yeast. temp = 22c, original gravity = 1.058, taste = burnt and sweet, the girl couldn't pick that there was vegemite in it till I told her, but then she is a girl, and I'm not paying her to be good at identifying beer ingredients, infact I'm not paying her at all.
total cost = $15.55
bubbling away sweetly, half regret not adding all the vegemite mixture, but then when sugars have fermented away I might quietly praise myself,

Posted: Monday Apr 25, 2005 4:37 pm
by the Baron
It is down,
the recipie: 300gm unrefined sugar, 525gm dextrose, 300gm maltodextrin, 300gm dark dried malt extract, 1 tin coopers stout, 50gm of vegemite, water to the 18L mark.
I originally put 100gm of vegemite in some boiled water and mixed it, it made black water, this stuff was potent and scarry and salty. Boiled all the sugary stuff in a pot and slowly added vegemite mixture, then I chickened out at half way and only added half the mixture. boiled this for 5 mins and added to the fermenter with the tin, put her in an ice bath and filled her up to the 18L mark, pitched yeast. temp now = 22c, original gravity = 1.062 (temp. compensated), taste = burnt and sweet, the girl couldn't pick that there was vegemite in it till I told her, but then she is a girl, and I'm not paying her to be good at identifying beer ingredients, infact I'm not paying her at all.
total cost = $15.55 not including priming cost
bubbling away sweetly, half regret not adding all the vegemite mixture, but then when sugars have fermented away I might quietly praise myself,

Posted: Tuesday Apr 26, 2005 10:37 am
by beermeister
2-Headed =Brewer/Bally -

Thanks again - the recipe looked good.

BM