Belgian Candi sugar

keat · Post by **keat** » Thursday May 12, 2005 8:20 pm

Hi all,
does anyone know if the "Kolner Grummel Kandis" mentioned in this site http://pfeifer-langen.com/260.php is Belgian candi sugar? I don't read Belgian, so...

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Thursday May 12, 2005 8:43 pm

Na keat ya got it all wrong, it's written in German. It's a finer grade of caramel candy you might be able to find it in a european style deli, that stuff is pretty popular in europe so one of those style deli's would be your best bet. Any other questions feel free to ask, I lived in southern Holland for 20 years, about 5k's from the Belgian border and 10k's from the German border. Talk about beer mecca.
Cheers,
Hillbilly

Daron · Post by **Daron** » Friday May 13, 2005 1:29 pm

is this the same as carbonation drops or do they just add flavour?

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Friday May 13, 2005 2:22 pm

Good question, I supose you could use them as carbonation drops but if I remember them correctly there about 5 to 10 mm in size so that would make it hard to get the right weight. To use with the brew I think it would be much easier to use Morgans liquid malt extract caramalt.

Daron · Post by **Daron** » Friday May 13, 2005 2:44 pm

So you would use them for flavour when bottling then. What would be a good brew to use them in?

Hillbilly · Post by **Hillbilly** » Friday May 13, 2005 6:49 pm

It's hard to know how much to use for priming. But if you want to use in the brew I would use it in darker beers to give that sweeter caramel taste.
Cheers,
Hillbilly

keat · Post by **keat** » Sunday May 15, 2005 12:55 am

Hillbilly wrote:Na keat ya got it all wrong, it's written in German. It's a finer grade of caramel candy you might be able to find it in a european style deli, that stuff is pretty popular in europe so one of those style deli's would be your best bet. Any other questions feel free to ask, I lived in southern Holland for 20 years, about 5k's from the Belgian border and 10k's from the German border. Talk about beer mecca.
Cheers,
Hillbilly

I'm thinking of doing a belgian beer, which naturally calls for belgian candi sugar. Would this caramel candy work?

Post by **Oliver** » Monday May 16, 2005 1:51 pm

If need be, you can get Belgian candi sugar from Grain and Grape in Melbourne.

They do mail order, too.

http://www.grainandgrape.com.au

Oliver

keat · Post by **keat** » Monday May 16, 2005 8:46 pm

Oliver wrote:If need be, you can get Belgian candi sugar from Grain and Grape in Melbourne.

They do mail order, too.

http://www.grainandgrape.com.au

Oliver

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I'm in Singapore and they don't ship international. Even if they do, the shipping cost is higher than the actual product

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Tuesday May 17, 2005 9:23 am

keat,
if you REALLY REALLY want this stuff, and you have the ability to control oven temperature reasonably accurately, I have the instructions somewhere for how to make it. Essentially, it involves sugar, in the oven, for controlled temperatures for certain times.
In the end, I decided not to bother myself, but, hell, I have made a career out of taking the easy path

. Where it was required (e.g. belgian ales), I have gone for various experimental alternatives, such as honey, golden syrup, ...

peterd

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Tuesday May 17, 2005 9:40 am

There is a recipie for this on this site somewhere. Can't remember where as it didn' tickle my fancy much. Sorry

Dogger

keat · Post by **keat** » Tuesday May 17, 2005 8:54 pm

peterd wrote:keat,
if you REALLY REALLY want this stuff, and you have the ability to control oven temperature reasonably accurately, I have the instructions somewhere for how to make it. Essentially, it involves sugar, in the oven, for controlled temperatures for certain times.
In the end, I decided not to bother myself, but, hell, I have made a career out of taking the easy path . Where it was required (e.g. belgian ales), I have gone for various experimental alternatives, such as honey, golden syrup, ...

peterd

Hi Peter,
thanks for the advice, I guess I'll try with the "Kolner Grummel Kandis". Thats the only thing remotely close to Belgian candi sugar that I can find here.