Twist-offs

ryan · Post by **ryan** » Friday Nov 02, 2007 2:02 pm

Amazing isn`t it?
Who would have thought..............?

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Friday Nov 02, 2007 2:14 pm

Kevnlis wrote:
KEG wrote:depends how far you stick the hose
From "Twist Offs" to... just like that!

yeah, i have that effect on things :-/

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Friday Nov 02, 2007 11:01 pm

I am led to believe you can get different kinds of caps, some designed for roll tops, & some for twist tops. My local Ubrew4U guy has shown me caps with slight variations in the designs of their sealing surfaces.

Yep! Even tried them. Roll top caps do not give good seals on twisties, but the twist top caps work fine.

Anyone experienced this?

warra48 · Post by **warra48** » Saturday Nov 03, 2007 4:19 am

pacman wrote:I am led to believe you can get different kinds of caps, some designed for roll tops, & some for twist tops. My local Ubrew4U guy has shown me caps with slight variations in the designs of their sealing surfaces.

Yep! Even tried them. Roll top caps do not give good seals on twisties, but the twist top caps work fine.

Anyone experienced this?

My local HB shop told me the same thing, but I now use the Coopers seals bought at Coles. They work fine on both roll tops and twist tops.

Kevnlis · Post by **Kevnlis** » Saturday Nov 03, 2007 7:46 am

warra48 wrote:My local HB shop told me the same thing, but I now use the Coopers seals bought at Coles. They work fine on both roll tops and twist tops.

Same, the Coopers caps are great for both. Home Brand just do not seem to seal as well on the twist off bottles.

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Saturday Nov 03, 2007 7:52 am

home brand have been fine for me on both types.. i just make sure the bench capper has got em on properly.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Saturday Nov 03, 2007 4:11 pm

From memory, twist caps are a bit thinner on the sides so that they are easier to squash into the thread on the bottle, hence sealing a bit better.

Kevnlis · Post by **Kevnlis** » Saturday Nov 03, 2007 4:19 pm

The Coopers caps are harder to twist off than the Home Brand caps, if that makes sense? I always assumed it was due to the better wax seal at the top and not the metal at the sides?

earle · Post by **earle** » Monday Nov 05, 2007 8:32 am

Well, tried a bottle of the ten year old ginger beer on the weekend. Crystal clear but unfortunately still tastes like brigalow ginger beer. Maybe another ten years. Might be my own millennium project. I think I've got about 7 tallies left, 1 every ten years. Bugger if I get to the last one and it turns out to be a good drop, too late to start another batch

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Monday Nov 05, 2007 11:28 am

FWIW I made a Coles Brand beer when I first started Home Brewing.

2 weeks, shite, 3 Months not bad, 6 Months same, 12 Months, bloody bewdiful.

Mind you, this theory has not worked on any other beers I have made, yet I still put 2 aside from every batch and save for Xmas time. I have some over 18 Months old ATM....actually 1 Longie

and 2 Stubbies of a Belgian that is 15 Months old.

As I also said on the other thread, the Superautomatica capper is far superior.....and if you are shopping on ebay, make sure that it is a ratchet style capper, not one of the older ones where they only fit the roll top tallies.

Cheers

Boonie

sonictruth · Post by **sonictruth** » Tuesday Nov 06, 2007 11:10 am

i made a tcb wetpack porter in janurary, it was basically undrinkable until june, it started getting good about august and now its a fantastic porter, so thats almost a year! problem is i had too many 'testers' at the start and now i only have 1 tallie left.

nanna Gail · Post by **nanna Gail** » Thursday Nov 08, 2007 9:03 am

Its been a while since my last words of wisdom(or lack thereof)
I have always used twistoffs, the same ones over and over, hand screwed on then tweaked with one of those twistoff thingies. They make a very tight seal if put on straight and like another brewer said when you invert you know staight off if theyare not sealed. I find them impossible to get off by hand as they form a vacuum seal whilst maturing. I use the same twistoff thiny to get on and to get off.
Life is simple why confuse it

Boonie · Post by **Boonie** » Thursday Nov 08, 2007 9:24 pm

Welcome back nanna.

FWIW, the used to use the Coopers one's for my twisties and Crown seals with no worries.

I buy the local HB shop ones now as I would like to support him rather than Coles/Woolies/Big W, for the extra buck it costs me

KEG · Post by **KEG** » Thursday Nov 08, 2007 9:33 pm

nanna Gail wrote:I find them impossible to get off by hand as they form a vacuum seal whilst maturing.

quite the opposite unless you're drinking dead flat beer

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Thursday Nov 08, 2007 10:15 pm

Suspect you are correct KEG.

Think it is "pressure seal" as opposed to "vacuum seal". nanna Gail was on the right track, but chose the wrong description.

Just my thoughts.

nanna Gail · Post by **nanna Gail** » Friday Nov 09, 2007 8:04 pm

Yeah Keg you are right Thanks Pacman for giving me the benefit of the doubt. We have not had a flat beer yet. 2 brews a month x 60 stubbies x 5 years Man, why does that look so bad when it is written down lol
I will write it like this 2 brews a month x 60 stubbies = 120 stubbies divided by 30 days in a month = 4 stubbies a day, now that looks better
"He who shall be obeyed" is not such a piss pot after all

Old Gil · Post by **Old Gil** » Monday Nov 12, 2007 1:40 pm

you think thats alot, a brew four slabs a week and only just keeping in front. i don't even wanna think of the numbers