Jay's Amber Lager

[Jay]

Heres one for the guys who go for a more complex darker shade of brew but still enjoy the cripsness of a lager.

1 can Coopers Bavarian Lager
1.5kg Liquid Amber Malt
100g English Crystal Malt
15g Willamette
Yeast As Supplied
21L

Steep the grains and hops for 10 minutes in boiled water.

I know the styles are all srewed up here but I wanted to make a lager that was an adaptation of my Amber Ale and I had just bought a can of the bavarian lager. Makes a creamy medium bodied nicely hopped amber lager that is good for both a BBQ quaffer and as an after work unwinder.

Cheers,
Jay.

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

Heres one for the guys who go for a more complex darker shade of brew but still enjoy the cripsness of a lager.

1 can Coopers Bavarian Lager
1.5kg Liquid Amber Malt
100g English Crystal Malt
15g Willamette
Yeast As Supplied
21L

Steep the grains and hops for 10 minutes in boiled water.

I know the styles are all srewed up here but I wanted to make a lager that was an adaptation of my Amber Ale and I had just bought a can of the bavarian lager. Makes a creamy medium bodied nicely hopped amber lager that is good for both a BBQ quaffer and as an after work unwinder.

Cheers,
Jay.

Would this turn out anything like JSAA (Squires Amber Ale)?

[yardglass]

Cheers Jay,
was thinking of something like this, will give it a go.
yard

[Jay]

Not quite the same as a JSAA (but pretty close), probably due to the bavarian lager's influence and the lager yeast making it drier and more lager like.

Like I said if I'm after a quaffer with a bit more flavour this is my poison.

Cheers,
Jay.

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

Not quite the same as a JSAA (but pretty close), probably due to the bavarian lager's influence and the lager yeast making it drier and more lager like.

Like I said if I'm after a quaffer with a bit more flavour this is my poison.

Cheers,
Jay.

Well if you're into partials Jay, I have a JSAA recipe that would raise the eyebrows!

[Jay]

I wouldn't mind having a peek at that as I'm looking at giving a partial a go before the summer's over.

Cheers,
Jay.

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

I wouldn't mind having a peek at that as I'm looking at giving a partial a go before the summer's over.

Cheers,
Jay.

Check out this link Jay....

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... php?t=2027

[shazzam]

just what I am looking for - thanks Jay.

Any substitutions on the bavarian ?

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

Any substitutions on the bavarian ?

You could try Morgans Royal Oak Amber Ale Shazzam, I've heard its a bloody great tin....looks like this will replace the Tooheys Draught tin in the JSAA clone recipe I have!

[shazzam]

Any substitutions on the bavarian ?

You could try Morgans Royal Oak Amber Ale Shazzam, I've heard its a bloody great tin....looks like this will replace the Tooheys Draught tin in the JSAA clone recipe I have!

I have three fermenters I might run jays recipe in tandem with this to see how it goes -

Morgans Royal Oak amber ale
1 kg light liquid malt
100gms chocolate
50gms crystal
(standard - no boil)
12gm goldings
(standard - no boil)
ale yeast as supplied
21 L

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

Any substitutions on the bavarian ?

You could try Morgans Royal Oak Amber Ale Shazzam, I've heard its a bloody great tin....looks like this will replace the Tooheys Draught tin in the JSAA clone recipe I have!

I have three fermenters I might run jays recipe in tandem with this to see how it goes -

Morgans Royal Oak amber ale
1 kg light liquid malt
100gms chocolate
50gms crystal
(standard - no boil)
12gm goldings
(standard - no boil)
ale yeast as supplied
21 L

Looks like a bloody ripper shazzam, you'll have to keep us up-to-date with the results etc, I'd love to hear how they both turn out!
Is that 50g's of dark or normal crystal?

[shazzam]

normal crystal - the chocolate should give plenty of colour

[JaCk_SpArRoW]

normal crystal - the chocolate should give plenty of colour

No probs, thanks mate....Im thinking of using 150g of Dark as Im not using Choc Malt for my clone recipe but I am using Carapils!

[Jay]

Shazzam,
You may find the chocolate grain a bit overpowering for what you want. Will still be nice no doubt just maybe not in the vein of the JSAA.
But fortune favours the brave so can't hurt to gi'it a go.
I'd really reccomend 150g of english crystal grain instead of the choc and crystal.
I have since made a nice version of this same beer with the Coopers heritage lager - more appropriate than the bavarian base.
Cheers,
Jay.

[shazzam]

Thanx will give the heritage a go Jay - might end up splitting it to two fermenters and half one grain, half the other - just for fun.
If I get onto it I might use the primer as well and split the other recipe.
4 fermenters might be more fun ???
cheers

[chris.]

Shazzam,
You may find the chocolate grain a bit overpowering for what you want. Will still be nice no doubt just maybe not in the vein of the JSAA.
But fortune favours the brave so can't hurt to gi'it a go.
I'd really reccomend 150g of english crystal grain instead of the choc and crystal.
I have since made a nice version of this same beer with the Coopers heritage lager - more appropriate than the bavarian base.
Cheers,
Jay.

I agree Jay. I'd even push the crystal up to 2-300g.

I was drinking the JS Amber a couple of nights ago (for the first time in months) & was really surprised at just how much crystal sweetness it has. Its only around 20-25IBU & is really driven by that crystal sweetness.

The Coopers Lager would get you close to the correct bitterness. A little bit of chocolate grain will help you get close to the colour.

[blackie]

When you refer to Coopers Bavarian Can.... are you referring to the actual brewing pack? The one that comes with yeast? Sorry to sound so ignorant... but I am!

[Jay]

Coopers Bavarian Can = Coopers Bavarian Lager Home brewing kit (which has lager yeast supplied).

[blackie]

Cheers! I will try that!