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Priming Measures

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I have always bottled all my brews, and envisage I'll continue to do so into the future.

Fortunately, I've not had a bottle bomb since 1973. I do leave all my brews in the fermenter for at least 2 weeks, except Hefeweizens, which I bottle after 7 or 8 days. However, Hefeweizens don't last long, I start drinking them 1 week post bottling, and a batch is generally gone in 4 to 6 weeks.

My preferred priming medium is Caster Sugar, and I use the priming measures available from HB shops, BigW etc to dispense the sugar through a small funnel into my bottles.

My experience is that the standard measure delivers priming at the very high end of the range, at about 2.9 volumes.
That's fine if I bottle say, a Hefeweizen, but it is totally unsuited to my preferred carbonation level for Pale Ales, Bitters etc etc.

Additionally, the measures are designed to dispense priming medium for 750 mil and 375 mil bottles. That makes it difficult to dispense an accurate measure in 500 mil bottles.

This is how I dealt with this issue. The photo shows 3 dispensers.
One is the standard one as bought from the HB shop. It is what I use for 375 and 750 mil when bottling hefeweizens.
Another one has been cut down with my modeling knife, commensurate with 500 mil bottles. I used a set of calipers to get precise measurements when doing this.

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That's good idea. I had a similar problem with varying bottle sizes and differing carb levels for different styles - had I considered this idea I might not have tried bulk-priming. Having said that I do enjoy the convenience and reliability of bulk priming.
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Nice post.

I have just been using carbonation drops. They've been working just fine for me.But that's me.
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jello wrote:Nice post.

I have just been using carbonation drops. They've been working just fine for me.But that's me.

Same here. Carb drops may add a few cents to each bottle, but I have had no probs (touch wood) with overcarbing. My daughter usually helps during bottling by placing drops in bottles and then I check she's added the correct amount prior to filling. Can't see me moving to bulk priming or sugar priming in the near future.
Bum wrote:That's good idea. I had a similar problem with varying bottle sizes and differing carb levels for different styles - had I considered this idea I might not have tried bulk-priming. Having said that I do enjoy the convenience and reliability of bulk priming.
The priming measure that I bought had 3 scoops, 375ml, 500ml & 750ml. I did use it once to prime some grolsch bottles, but found it to be a pain. I now use 1 carb drop and I don't notice a difference in carbonation.

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I would like to try some bulk priming in the future, but at the moment i'm happy with the drops. That is....until i start kegging.

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Hi Guys,
with priming for ginger beer,can i put honey into the bottles instead of carbonation drops?
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I went from priming spoon (used the 750ml/375ml one) for 600ml bottles,

when i tipped the spoon to level out the sugar i always made sure each tip left a space of about 1 - 2mm below the edge.
I figured to carb an extra 150ml of beer is going to be less than a gram of sugar...

that worked well for me and had no issues over carbing, as for 500ml bottles... well trial and error i gues, just add a fraction less.

i will add here though that i got tired of doing this and changed to Drops, these were good but the mouth feel of the beer was a bit... Gassy/tangy hard to describe...(homebrewish?)

so i swapped to bulk priming with dextrose and never looked back.
The head looks awesome and creamy and mouthfeel is great, it lasts all the way to the bottom of the glass.

Dont be scared to bulk prime, its easy as hell but does require a second fermenter and some hose.
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kimbo wrote:Hi Guys,
with priming for ginger beer,can i put honey into the bottles instead of carbonation drops?
No reason why not, other than the fact that it will be difficult and fiddly to get it into the bottles in the first place. IMO bulk priming would be the way to go.
Keep in mind that the priming rate will also vary according to how fermentable the honey is, i.e. sugar content.

Just got a jar out of the cupboard. Nutritional info gives it 82.1g per 100 of sugar, or 82.1%.

To determine priming rate you'll have to do a bit of maths. If you were to bulk prime a full batch of beer with 180g of dextrose (near enough to 100% fermentable) then to find honey, the equation should look something like this?
180/x X 100 = y
where x [/i ] is fermentability of your honey
and y is quantity of honey.

Therefore if your honey is 82.1% sugar: 180/82.1 X 100 = 219.2g of honey will be needed to achieve the desired fizz.

In saying that, you might find it simpler to chuck 250g of honey in your primary and prime as usual depending on personal preference.
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Agree totally emnpaul, do it at the primary, its then part of the brew and controllable.
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I have always used, well since moving away from drops and K&K, 1 tsp of caster sugar to prime 750ml longies. Sometimes I would like the carb to be less. Would 1/2 tsp of caster sugar be O.K.? Theory being it may just take longer to carbonate? Bulk prime sounds O.K. although I'm not sure it's for me.
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G'day Rotten.

I tried the half teaspoon trick once myself and found it was a fine line between less fizz and not enough fizz. :cry:

If it was me I'd have a look at bulk priming however I undersand this is a personal thing and some people never have the need or inclination. (See Warra's original post.)

If you do want your carb levels to be spot on for style you are brewing there is a handy calculator here: http://www.aussiehomebrewing.com/Alcoho ... lator.html

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I trimmed down my sugar scoop like Warra & it works a treat, an accurate & consistant dose made easy!!

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