All Grain Setup

[Kevnlis]

You will find it a bit hard getting to the boil with a two ring burner and a 60L stockpot! Might want to consider upgrading that

[Clean Brewer]

You will find it a bit hard getting to the boil with a two ring burner and a 60L stockpot! Might want to consider upgrading that

Should be fine in getting 30ltr Wort to the boil, I use an old 2 ring and it gets a nice boil going...
Do a test first GYM with 30ltrs of water to make sure it does come to the boil and boil, dont want to be finding out on Brewday that it doesnt..

Bigger batches would be an issue though..

CB

[Kevnlis]

See the thing is, in a 60L pot, the empty bit of pot acts like a heat sink and actually draws a lot of heat from the wort. With a 2-ring burner, I reckon it is going to take quite some time before you reach the boil.

I had a 3-ring burner which I used without a regulator (I know I shouldn't have but it was the only way), and it still took me something like 20-30 min to reach boil in a much smaller pot.

[Clean Brewer]

I bought a thinner gauge 80ltr S.S pot and with the 2ring it got to a simmer(a boil with the lid on), took a little while as well, I guess it needs some insulating with camping mat and a more powerful burner..

As I said, and its what I did, test it out first just to see that it will boil and stay boiling, I think some people factor it all based on how quick it gets to the boil( = more gas used), I start the burner up after 1st runnings and it all works well, hardly takes any time by the 2nd runnings..

CB

[Gym_]

Wholy crap i hope it will boil it..
This is going to be a rather exspencive hobby at this rate..

[Clean Brewer]

Wholy crap i hope it will boil it..
This is going to be a rather exspencive hobby at this rate..

Just put 30ltrs(general single batch volume) Hot Water into your pot and do a test to see if it boils, I reckon it will..

Its not expensive in the long run for great tasting beer..

[Gym_]

yer one prob with that .. i wanted a dubble batch
edit ( dubble batches )

[Kevnlis]

You will have a very hard time boiling a double batch in a 60L stockpot unless you are making 20L batches, or topping off the boil.

[Clean Brewer]

yer one prob with that .. i wanted a dubble batch
edit ( dubble batches )

Yes, that will be a problem, a 2 ring wont boil a double batch and your pot wont be big enough to do a double batch boils worth, I do single batches in 50ltr pot and still get the odd boil-over..

Some double batch brewers recommend at least a 80-100ltr pot and a burner similar to these with the appropriate regulator..

http://www.beerbelly.com.au/burners.html

CB

[Gym_]

owell looks like ill be just doing singles then,
And posably toping up my 60L fermenter twice ..
Shouldnt be to much of a big dear realy

[Clean Brewer]

Just do 2 batches of the same beer in the day and put into 2 20ltr cubes to no-chill and then once cool enough to pitch yeast pour into fermenter...

[drsmurto]

I have a 50L keg for my kettle and use a NASA burner with a low pressure regulator.

Did my first double batch a few weeks back - kettle was damn near overflowing and the NASA had no troubles bringing it to the boil and sustaining a nice boil for an hour.

Ended up with 2 x 20L of precious TTL wort.

[Kevnlis]

I have a 50L keg for my kettle and use a NASA burner with a low pressure regulator.

Did my first double batch a few weeks back - kettle was damn near overflowing and the NASA had no troubles bringing it to the boil and sustaining a nice boil for an hour.

Ended up with 2 x 20L of precious TTL wort.

Did you top the boil up, or did you just have it that full? Once you take in evap and loss to trub you wouldn't think it possible...

[drsmurto]

I did top up about 30 mins into the boil with 3L of wort that i had brought to the boil on the stove.

Pre-boil volume was 47L so i had 44L in the kettle and managed to prevent a boil over. I reckon next timei could sneak it in but you have to stir as it comes to the boil to prevent the boil over. I also couldnt boil as aggressively as i normally would. A gentle rolling boil for the first 30 mins then cranked it for the last 30 mins!

Post-boil i had 40L.

A tight squeeze and something i wont do very often, only on beers i know i can happily drink 2 kegs of and the TTL fits the bill perfectly!

[Gym_]

OMFG no wonder people do All grains in their garages etc..
My house stinks from this stuff ..
Smells like … Ahhhh dame how could u describe it besides saying it friggin reeks .
Like porage and wheatbix mixed together with warm milk Gone Wrong !!

Tell ya after spending like 60 bucks on grains and yeasts and Hops + the 10 bucks worth of LPG and all the burners and boil pots, eskys , taps and piping ..
Plus the 6 Hrs it took me to make the brew … this had want to be the best dame beer I have ever tasted in my entire life ..

[drsmurto]

It will be!

6 hours for your first batch? You got off lightly.

So what did you end up making?

[Clean Brewer]

OMFG no wonder people do All grains in their garages etc..
My house stinks from this stuff ..
Smells like … Ahhhh dame how could u describe it besides saying it friggin reeks .
Like porage and wheatbix mixed together with warm milk Gone Wrong !!

Thats FRESHNESS Gym..

Tell ya after spending like 60 bucks on grains and yeasts and Hops + the 10 bucks worth of LPG and all the burners and boil pots, eskys , taps and piping ..

Gotta remember mate, that this is all a long term investment to learn and produce great tasting beer.

Plus the 6 Hrs it took me to make the brew …

Thats why guys have brewdays, time for a chat, socialisation, a beer or 2(after 1st hop addition). Once your comfortable with the process, you'll find that you will start doing other things during the day, youve got 60-90min mashing to do something else and a 60-90min boil to do something aswell(just have a timer to remember hop additions).. It all is time consuming on your first brew but once you get used to it, it will be a breeze of a day..

Well done Gym, beats that Rocket Fuel..

[drsmurto]

6 hours from dough in to a nice CHILLED wort.

But in the mean time i get plenty of other things done around home

Even ducked out to do some shopping during the mash a few times!

The smell of the mash is awesome - only thing better is doing a decoction. the smell of boiling grains is to die for.

Every hop addition - stick your nose right over the boiler and take a big whiff - effin gorgeous!

Even yeast starters smell pretty amazing, especially the english ale yeast that give off so many lovely esters (drooling on my keyboard.....)

[Gym_]

Well I didn’t get bugger all done ( specially wile the burner was going ) to worried I was going to burn down the house ( wanted to do it outside but there’s no way I could carry that much weight up a flight of stairs ))

I used your recipe Doc as a base

Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 34.84 L
Estimated OG: 1.047 SG
Estimated Color: 12.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 30.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:


3.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 56.60 %
1.00 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 18.87 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 18.87 %
0.30 kg Caramalt (Joe White) (49.3 EBC) Grain 5.66 %
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.90 %] (60 min) Hops 18.5 IBU
15.00 gm Amarillo [8.90 %] (20 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.90 %] (5 min) Hops 3.7 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #US-05(56))Y

But changed it up a little due to available stock and personal taste as far as the hops go ..

Batch Size: 20.00 L
Boil Size: 30.00 L
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

2.00 kg Ale Malt, (Barrett Burston)
1.00 kg Ale - Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcett Floor Malted)
1.00 kg Munich I Malt (Weyermann)
1.00 kg Wheat Malt Pale (Weyermann)
10.00 gm Amarillo (60 min)
10.00 gm Amarillo (20 min)
10.00 gm Amarillo (5 min) Flame Off
Wyeast 1272 - All-American Ale ( liquid yeast)