Storing fresh wort

[Beerdrinker32]

thinking about doing 40L ag batches and keeping half the wort for brewing the following week? will it stay fresh or have a big chance of nasties growing in there? cheers

[Beerdrinker32]

wrong section

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[rwh]

I wouldn't do this. In order for it to keep for the week you'd pretty much have to have it sterile. This means that there can't be any foreign bacteria in there, a situation that is quite difficult to achieve.

One way to do it might be getting one of those fresh-wort containers that you can buy from the HBS, then refilling with the HOT wort, then tipping it to make sure that all of the inside surface has come into contact with the hot wort. This might sterilise it sufficiently to last a week.

I reckon you'd be better off buying a second fermenter and doing your two AG batches at the same time.

[ACTbrewer]

I will be putting hot wort into sanitised cubes to store. That's what ESB do with fresh wort kits, and they reuse their cubes.

[Duane]

Have a read of these threads, may be of interest,
Pretty long tho

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... l=no+chill
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/i ... opic=10536

[Cortez The Killer]

From what I've heard from brewers in Wollongong - the no chill method is the go

I've used it once - (basically letting the wort cool overnight in a cube) but am yet to taste the results - it tasted great in the fermenter though

The no chill convinced me to start AG cause I didn't need a chiller and wouldn't waste a heap of water and with the copper prices - I would have otherwise been really hesitant to make the leap.

But now I'm glad I did

Cheers

[Aussie Claret]

I'm a regular No chiller, simply due to the local water restrictions. After the boil when the wort is still very hot (90's), I transfer into a sanitized Jerry can, squeeze out as much of the head space and you'll be ok, as the wort is above pasterising temperatures (65c).

When transferring try to minimise the amount of splashing.

You can store wort in this way for lengthy time periods.

AC

[scblack]

The FreshWort brews you buy at the HBS is just fresh wort stored.

No difference to what you are contemplating.

[Ross]

Yep - no problem - go for it

cheers Ross

[chris.]

I do this too.
The only downside I've found is a decrease in hop aroma. I like big, late hop additions
I've recently been inverting the cube after filling & sealing. I let it sit on it's end for 10mins. Then I rapid cool the cube in an ice bath. I'm finding much better aroma & flavour results using this method.

[Swifty]

So there would be no problem putting the wort in the fermenter to let it cool overnight rather than cooling and pitching the yeast on the same day? I've been using ice blocks and a tub of water but it takes quite a while anyway and would prefer to leave it overnight to cool to pitching temp and save water.

[SpillsMostOfIt]

I believe more than a few people do this.

As I understand it:
If the fermenter is sealed so that no nasties that might make your beer infected (bacteria, cockroaches, rats) can get in, you are okay. The airspace in the fermenter won't worry the wort overnight. Oxygenation appears to be an issue only when the wort is hot or when it has yeast in it after the aerobic phase.

I think it may have benefits over sticking it into a cube then into the fermenter as there is one less vessel and one less transfer of the wort to introduce infection risk.

[Ross]

So there would be no problem putting the wort in the fermenter to let it cool overnight rather than cooling and pitching the yeast on the same day? I've been using ice blocks and a tub of water but it takes quite a while anyway and would prefer to leave it overnight to cool to pitching temp and save water.

Exactly the way i do it If using dried yeast, just simply pitch when ready. If using liquid yeast, you will need to aerate the wort.

cheers Ross

[Swifty]

Thanks guys, will be doing this from now on. It's a pain waiting for the wort to cool in the bath and I just don't have the money for a chiller.

[BierMeister]

Never tried, but don't any of you have chill haze with your beers or do you only use this method when brewing dark type beers.

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Someone (on this forum, I think) wrote something that I just love.

Paraphrasing -

Problems with clarity can be easily addressed by using a pewter tankard.

[OldBugman]

They dont get clarity issues in the fresh wort packs.

[gregb]

Someone (on this forum, I think) wrote something that I just love.

Paraphrasing -

Problems with clarity can be easily addressed by using a pewter tankard.

Was I, although I prolly swiped it from someone somewhere else.

Cheers,
Greg

[Aussie Claret]

Never tried, but don't any of you have chill haze with your beers or do you only use this method when brewing dark type beers.

Nope, no chill haze, well no more than usual, and I treat with polyclar and filter so no problems with this method for me. Also add Irish moss or one of the derivatives and you should be fine.

AC

[lethaldog]

Couldnt you just chill wort then store, its fine going in the fermenter so why not a cube??